Cruzer1 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 10 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: No doubt - I think the strategy plays for multiple reasons: There are more bases available at more points in the game to take on 1st to 3rds than by stolen base. You don't always have a base stealer on base when you need the base. More players have good enough speed 1st to third than have the sprint talent for the straight steal or the quickness to get a big enough lead without getting picked off. Base stealing requires rarer skills than taking extra bases. Pitchers and catchers can do a lot to take away the steal when they are looking for it. Outfielders are not suddenly going to get more skilled when they are challenged. If anything you take them out of their comfort zone in a way that you aren't for a catcher - who probably wouldn't be there if he didn't at have at least a reasonable game throwing to 2nd. My point would be that Clark has at least plus speed, and would score more runs if he lead off games with a walk/steal to be on 2nd with nobody out. He is great at getting on first base, and should be a high percentage stealer. Maybe the Tigers will let him steal more when he's on the ML team. Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Toledo W 6-1 Lee 2/3 2BB 4SB Malloy 3/5 2RBI 2K Cruz 0/5 3K Gipson-Long 4.2IP BB 5K Erie PPD WM L 5-2 Pacheco 1/3 BB K Graham 2/2 RBI BB 3B (Quietly he has had a .301/.382/.511 line since 5/1 ) Lakeland W 3-2 Franyerber 0/4 Strong 2/4 RBI 2K 2B Rucker 2/4 2RBI Reyes 5IP H ER 2BB 4K 1 Quote
Tenacious D Posted July 14 Posted July 14 2 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Toledo W 6-1 Lee 2/3 2BB 4SB Malloy 3/5 2RBI 2K Cruz 0/5 3K Gipson-Long 4.2IP BB 5K Erie PPD WM L 5-2 Pacheco 1/3 BB K Graham 2/2 RBI BB 3B (Quietly he has had a .301/.382/.511 line since 5/1 ) Lakeland W 3-2 Franyerber 0/4 Strong 2/4 RBI 2K 2B Rucker 2/4 2RBI Reyes 5IP H ER 2BB 4K I had very high hopes for Graham. A couple of mocks had him going to us higher than when we drafted him originally. Is this a case of him being old for his level or figuring things out? (Maybe both) Would love to see what he can do in Erie. Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 14 Posted July 14 13 hours ago, Cruzer1 said: My point would be that Clark has at least plus speed, and would score more runs if he lead off games with a walk/steal to be on 2nd with nobody out... If he's stealing at a success rate of 80%+, the Tigers should give him the "green light". They might not do that when he just breaks in... But I think they'll turn that light on sooner rather than later or never... IMO. Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 16 Posted July 16 FCL W 4-2 Dickson 0/4 3K Jimenez 2/4 RBI HR DSL Watch Cris Rodriguez 2/4 K SB Miranda 1/4 RBI 3K 2B Quote
Tenacious D Posted July 16 Posted July 16 Has anyone published updated organizational prospect rankings, post-draft? Will be interesting to see where Yost and Oliveto land amongst our current prospects. Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 17 Posted July 17 16 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Has anyone published updated organizational prospect rankings, post-draft? Will be interesting to see where Yost and Oliveto land amongst our current prospects. I haven't seen anything; they may be waiting until after the signing deadline is passed which is 7/28 this year. My very broad guess is Yost is in the back half of the top 10 Oliveto is in the mid-teens and Dumesnil, Hamilton, Jacobs in the late teens early 20's range. Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 17 Posted July 17 Just looked through the transactions and saw Owen Hall got moved to the 60-Day probably to open up some slots for signees but shoulder issues are always a concern with pitchers so I am guessing we won't see him again this year. Quote
Tigermojo Posted July 17 Posted July 17 17 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Has anyone published updated organizational prospect rankings, post-draft? Will be interesting to see where Yost and Oliveto land amongst our current prospects. Top 10 Prospects 1. SS Kevin McGonigle (Tier 1) 2. OF Max Clark (Tier 1) 3. SS Bryce Rainer (Tier 1) 4. C/1B Josue Briceño (Tier 3) 5. C Thayron Liranzo (Tier 4) 6. RHP Jaden Hamm (Tier 5) 7. 2B Max Anderson (Tier 5) 8. SS Jordan Yost (Tier 5)—2025 Draft Pick 9. 2B Hao-Yu Lee (Tier 5) 10. OF Cris Rodriguez (Tier 5) Prospect Snapshot: 2B Max Anderson Anderson hit .414 with 21 home runs and 70 RBI in 57 games during his junior year at Nebraska, and the Tigers took him in the second round of the 2024 draft, despite his limited defensive profile. He has continued to rake in pro ball, posting a .328/.376/.534 line with 24 doubles, 11 home runs and 53 RBI in 72 games at Double-A. Updated MLB Farm System Rankings Post 2025 MLB Draft Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 17 Posted July 17 17 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Has anyone published updated organizational prospect rankings, post-draft? Will be interesting to see where Yost and Oliveto land amongst our current prospects. This is what I get for not looking beforehand here is Kiley McDaniels updated list . https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43639138/2025-top-10-prospect-rankings-all-30-mlb-teams-kiley-mcdaniel#det Quote
Shinzaki Posted July 17 Posted July 17 Weird that he has Oliveto above Yost...but then it's only 8 vs 7. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted July 17 Posted July 17 Keith Law, who hates the Tigers, wrote this about Max Clark while covering the Futures Game: I still think he’s going to be a star once the power comes. 1 Quote
Cruzer1 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 My list of the Tigers top prospects, not including draft: 1. Max Clark, OF 2. Kevin McGonigle, 2b/SS 3. Bryce Rainer, SS 4. Troy Melton, SP 5. Thayron Liranzo, C 6. Josue Briceno, 1b 7. Chris Rodriguez, OF 8. Jake Miller, SP 9. Franyerber Montilla, SS 10. Max Anderson, 2b 11. Hao Yu Lee, 2b/3b Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 18 Posted July 18 FCL W 7-3 Dickson 0/5 SB Warwick 1/2 RBI 2BB Jimenez 1/4 RBI 2K Diaz 5IP 4H 2ER 2BB K DSL Cris Rodriguez 4/5 RBI Miranda 1/4 RBI Quote
Tenacious D Posted July 18 Posted July 18 Could Cris Rod move up to FCL stills this season? Dude is only 17, but seems like he’s handling his current level. Quote
Edman85 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Tenacious D said: Could Cris Rod move up to FCL stills this season? Dude is only 17, but seems like he’s handling his current level. Moving from DSL to FCL is about more than box scores. There are certain boxes that need to be checked (life skills, English, schooling, etc) before the move. And that doesn't even get into the post draft Domestic Reserve List crunch. Quote
Tenacious D Posted July 18 Posted July 18 Good points, but you also left out potentially missing his senior prom, too 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 6 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Good points, but you also left out potentially missing his senior prom, too Don't think they have those in the DR... Quote
papalawrence Posted July 18 Posted July 18 33 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Good points, but you also left out potentially missing his senior prom, too At 17 he might be a junior Quote
Tigermojo Posted July 19 Posted July 19 (edited) I'm watching the Moon Mammoths. Is that why Colbert got cancelled? Nope it was John Oliver not Colbert. Edited July 19 by Tigermojo Quote
allpaths35 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 12 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Micah Ashman threw two scoreless innings with 3 Ks in his Erie debut. What's the Micah stuff like? I've been impressed with his stats. Could he help with the bullpen by the start of next season? Quote
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