oblong Posted October 13 Posted October 13 Christian Stewart, anyone? Can all the Megans out there get together and figure out how we're spelling your name? Quote
Shelton Posted October 13 Posted October 13 36 minutes ago, oblong said: Christian Stewart, anyone? Can all the Megans out there get together and figure out how we're spelling your name? They should go to work with their name spelled clearly on the back of their shirt. Then we would know. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: yes, actually, I do too. I just politely correct the person. My last name is Barker. I hear Baker or Parker FAR, FAR more than I ever actually hear Barker. No stress, no worries... I just politely correct... LOL - mangling that is pretty bad. 🙄 Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 13 Posted October 13 15 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: LOL - mangling that is pretty bad. 🙄 My buddies and I in high school (early 80's) played a fun trick... Bob Barker was all the rage back then... So they all started calling me Bob. I made a "Bob" spray-painted T-shirt that I wore as much as I could. The vanity plate on the front of my car said "Bob". I only answered to Bob (not my first name, actually...) At school... kids would come up to me and ask: "Are you really Bob Barker? You're not related are you?" "Of course I am." What degenerates we were... Quote
Tiger337 Posted October 13 Posted October 13 3 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: yes, actually, I do too. I just politely correct the person. My last name is Barker. I hear Baker or Parker FAR, FAR more than I ever actually hear Barker. No stress, no worries... I just politely correct... Given your forum personality, BARKER is actually VERY EASY to remember!!!!! Quote
CMRivdogs Posted October 13 Posted October 13 Nothing like working for a company for 10 years only to have them misspell my last name on the 10 year recognition plaque. I left the company a few months later for a different reason. When a VP asked why I left when I asked for a non compete waver I almost told them that because after 10 years you couldn't get my name right. Quote
lordstanley Posted October 13 Posted October 13 In the late 19th century my ancestors came from Poland, where vowels are at a premium. Decided to Anglicize our original surname and I guess one of them had the bright idea of putting in three consecutive vowels. Which means the last name is now frequently mispronounced and/or people try to replace the middle vowel with a consonant. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 13 Posted October 13 56 minutes ago, lordstanley said: my ancestors came from Poland, where vowels are at a premium. 🎗️Well turned phrase of the day. Where else but MTS can you find erudition like this? 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: Given your forum personality, BARKER is actually VERY EASY to remember!!!!! I've tried to convince my relatives that Barker derives from "Circus barker". But it doesn't. It actually derives from Middle English leather (some type of tanner related) worker. I'm not convinced. Especially if you knew the rest of my family. They're all like me. Or worse. Dad, Uncle Ken... Especially my Grandma. I think she started it all. She's a relentless optimist and tigress. What a hoot she was! At least when she was still amongst us... (that was a long time ago... But I still blame you grandma! With love...) Quote
lordstanley Posted October 13 Posted October 13 16 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: I've tried to convince my relatives that Barker derives from "Circus barker". But it doesn't. It actually derives from Middle English leather (some type of tanner related) worker. I'm not convinced. Especially if you knew the rest of my family. They're all like me. Or worse. Dad, Uncle Ken... Especially my Grandma. I think she started it all. She's a relentless optimist and tigress. What a hoot she was! At least when she was still amongst us... (that was a long time ago... But I still blame you grandma! With love...) https://www.barkerville.ca/ Billy Barker’s legendary gold strike on Williams Creek triggered a multi-billion dollar industrial revolution that literally built a province. Today, the extraordinary historic town of Barkerville stands as a living testament to BC’s golden beginnings. With its unique streetscape of more than 125 heritage buildings, period displays, satellite museums, restaurants and shops there is still so much to explore. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 14 Posted October 14 4 hours ago, lordstanley said: https://www.barkerville.ca/ Billy Barker’s legendary gold strike on Williams Creek triggered a multi-billion dollar industrial revolution that literally built a province. Today, the extraordinary historic town of Barkerville stands as a living testament to BC’s golden beginnings. With its unique streetscape of more than 125 heritage buildings, period displays, satellite museums, restaurants and shops there is still so much to explore. I am going to have to go for a visit!!! Quote
tiger2022 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 23 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: This. It's annoying. His name is Reese OLSON. I see quite a few "Olsen's" WTF? Remember Mark McGuire? Drew Breese? And people....it's lose, not loose 1 Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted October 14 Author Posted October 14 I've gotten into some arguments with some pretty smart baseball people (in my opinion) about Skubal. I flat out told them I want him traded (still do). Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut..... What if we play Skubal and Boras into Boras's own game. Boras loooooooves the opt-out option. How would you guys feel about offering Skubal a 10 year deal, $415 mil over 10 years. Years 1-3, pay him $45 million per year, then 4-10 pay him $40million per year giving him an opt out after year 3 and 4? (I say this because if he gets injured in year 3, year 4 would be a prove it year). That way we get him for the rest of his assumed prime, and more likely he'd opt out if he was really good going for another contract and we could run for the hills? (I know this would never happen, but you have to admit, that'd be pretty sweet). Nahhh, trade him lol. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted October 14 Author Posted October 14 Hot off the press, sports writers talking what it'd take for Skubal. https://sports.yahoo.com/article/tarik-skubal-potential-next-stop-095600022.html TLDL: Seattle • Cole Young (SS) + Emerson Hancock (RHP) + high-upside A-ball prospect. • Harry Ford (C) + Emerson Hancock (RHP) + mid-tier prospect. If the price escalates, a conversation that includes Bryan Woo is where talks get serious. Boston • Marcelo Mayer (SS/3B) + Hunter Dobbins (RHP) + Luis Perales (RHP). Mets packages: • Jett Williams (SS/CF) + Brandon Sproat (RHP) + Ryan Clifford (OF/1B). • Luisangel Acuna (2B/SS) + Jonah Tong (RHP) + Carson Benge (OF). ________________________ Mets article about the same thing: It would have to be one of either Jett Williams or Carson Benge, probably pushing on Benge. Every team is asking for Benge right now. One of a [Brandon] Sproat or a [Jonah] Tong], and then another prospect, like a Ryan Clifford," Duquette said, per an X post from SNY. https://www.si.com/mlb/mets/news/ex-gm-reveals-how-new-york-mets-could-complete-tarik-skubal-trade-grant9 https://sny.tv/video/-do-mets-have-enough-pieces-to-trade-for-tarik-skubal-baseball-night-in-ny ______________________________________ Yankees Both Luis Gil and Elmer Rodriguez-Cruz, Dominguez and 2025 1st round pick Dax Kilby https://fansided.com/mlb/a-loaded-yankees-trade-package-for-tarik-skubal-and-what-it-would-mean-for-tigers-01k7g00mp9cc ____________________________ Of the ones mentioned. I like the Mets. Carson Benge, Johah Tong and Ryan Clifford. Done deal. We'll pay for shipping too... Although the Red Sox package looks great too. Mariners I'd rather have Colt Emerson + Emerson Handcock + a High A player. But I guess that isn't happening............ Quote
4hzglory Posted October 14 Posted October 14 1 hour ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Hot off the press, sports writers talking what it'd take for Skubal. https://sports.yahoo.com/article/tarik-skubal-potential-next-stop-095600022.html TLDL: Seattle • Cole Young (SS) + Emerson Hancock (RHP) + high-upside A-ball prospect. • Harry Ford (C) + Emerson Hancock (RHP) + mid-tier prospect. If the price escalates, a conversation that includes Bryan Woo is where talks get serious. Boston • Marcelo Mayer (SS/3B) + Hunter Dobbins (RHP) + Luis Perales (RHP). Mets packages: • Jett Williams (SS/CF) + Brandon Sproat (RHP) + Ryan Clifford (OF/1B). • Luisangel Acuna (2B/SS) + Jonah Tong (RHP) + Carson Benge (OF). ________________________ Mets article about the same thing: It would have to be one of either Jett Williams or Carson Benge, probably pushing on Benge. Every team is asking for Benge right now. One of a [Brandon] Sproat or a [Jonah] Tong], and then another prospect, like a Ryan Clifford," Duquette said, per an X post from SNY. https://www.si.com/mlb/mets/news/ex-gm-reveals-how-new-york-mets-could-complete-tarik-skubal-trade-grant9 https://sny.tv/video/-do-mets-have-enough-pieces-to-trade-for-tarik-skubal-baseball-night-in-ny ______________________________________ Yankees Both Luis Gil and Elmer Rodriguez-Cruz, Dominguez and 2025 1st round pick Dax Kilby https://fansided.com/mlb/a-loaded-yankees-trade-package-for-tarik-skubal-and-what-it-would-mean-for-tigers-01k7g00mp9cc ____________________________ Of the ones mentioned. I like the Mets. Carson Benge, Johah Tong and Ryan Clifford. Done deal. We'll pay for shipping too... Although the Red Sox package looks great too. Mariners I'd rather have Colt Emerson + Emerson Handcock + a High A player. But I guess that isn't happening............ I'd rather have 2026 Skubal and the comp pick and go win the Central and see how far we can go. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted October 14 Author Posted October 14 3 minutes ago, 4hzglory said: I'd rather have 2026 Skubal and the comp pick and go win the Central and see how far we can go. That's fine. I'm just curious though. If you look at the Angels, they are in Baseball purgatory because they could have traded Ohtani for a boatload (More than what we'd get for Skubal) but didn't, so they could run it one more time with him. If we do the same thing, do you have fear that we'll be in the same baseball purgatory? Would you be willing to run it back next year knowing that we probably miss the playoffs for the next 10 years? (I'm not trying to be a prude or negative in any way, I'm legitimately asking this as this is what I think happens if we run with Skubal for one more year. But I'm of the opinion the Tigers have overachieved the last two years as well which I know is in the minority of opinion here on this board also). But would appreciate your thoughts on that: Would you be willing to run it back next year knowing that we probably miss the playoffs for the next 10 years? Quote
4hzglory Posted October 14 Posted October 14 16 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: That's fine. I'm just curious though. If you look at the Angels, they are in Baseball purgatory because they could have traded Ohtani for a boatload (More than what we'd get for Skubal) but didn't, so they could run it one more time with him. If we do the same thing, do you have fear that we'll be in the same baseball purgatory? Would you be willing to run it back next year knowing that we probably miss the playoffs for the next 10 years? (I'm not trying to be a prude or negative in any way, I'm legitimately asking this as this is what I think happens if we run with Skubal for one more year. But I'm of the opinion the Tigers have overachieved the last two years as well which I know is in the minority of opinion here on this board also). But would appreciate your thoughts on that: Would you be willing to run it back next year knowing that we probably miss the playoffs for the next 10 years? I don’t think we are looking at missing the playoffs for 10 years by not trading Skubal. I think we have considerably more options of improving our team internally in 2027 and beyond than we do in 2026. So yes, losing Skubal will hurt, but it doesn’t mean no playoffs in 2027 or 2028 and beyond. Trading Skubal for prospects this offseason on the other hand, almost guarantees IMO we don’t have a chance in the playoffs (or likely getting there) in 2026. With him, we are the favorites in the Central. Without him, we are likely competing with Minnesota for 3rd in 2026. I also think it would extremely hurt the positive morale in the clubhouse as well as $ coming in from fans. 2 Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted October 14 Author Posted October 14 2 minutes ago, 4hzglory said: I don’t think we are looking at missing the playoffs for 10 years by not trading Skubal. I think we have considerably more options of improving our team internally in 2027 and beyond than we do in 2026. So yes, losing Skubal will hurt, but it doesn’t mean no playoffs in 2027 or 2028 and beyond. Trading Skubal for prospects this offseason on the other hand, almost guarantees IMO we don’t have a chance in the playoffs (or likely getting there) in 2026. With him, we are the favorites in the Central. Without him, we are likely competing with Minnesota for 3rd in 2026. I also think it would extremely hurt the positive morale in the clubhouse as well as $ coming in from fans. I agree wholeheartedly. I just think sacrificing 2026 for 2027-2037 is worth it in my eyes. But thats what makes it fun being a fan. We all have our perspectives. (That and I love prospects). Thanks for sharing your thoughts for sure! (I know you're not alone in those as many agree with you!) 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 14 Posted October 14 2 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: ... Boras loooooooves the opt-out option. How would you guys feel about offering Skubal a 10 year deal, $415 mil over 10 years. Years 1-3, pay him $45 million per year, then 4-10 pay ... I like this as our best option. 10 years $400 mill 2027-28 $50 mill each year. (30 years old at the start) 2027-28 $45 mill each year. (32 years old at the start) Opt out available after the 4th year is completed. 2027-28 $40 mill each year. (34 years old at the start) Opt out available after the 5th & 6th year is completed. 2027-28 $35 mill each year. (36 years old at the start) Opt out available after the 7th year is completed. 2027-28 $30 mill each year. (38 years old at the start) Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 14 Posted October 14 PS: If Skubal/Boras want an extra $25 mill... Just for bragging rights... $5 mill roster bonus at the beginning of each salary change year. Quote
lordstanley Posted October 14 Posted October 14 Our best hope is that Skubal only has loyalty to himself, which would be his right. So be willing to test the market and not accept a perceived underpay, despite his history with the Tigers organization and city, fine. But by the same token, not feel obligated to test the market if he feels the Tigers have given him a fair lucrative offer, despite what Boras or the union might prefer he do. Make an offer this winter, maybe there is a small chance Skubal would surprise us. Quote
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