chasfh Posted June 18 Posted June 18 13 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: LOL, Good luck with that! That’s why I posted that with the big smiley face. I know it would never matter. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted June 18 Author Posted June 18 hopefully the Tigers know what they really have in Cris. i would do Hamm and Jung and more for Bednar; you get him for 1.5 years. Quote
papalawrence Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Anderson is crushing at Erie, .977 ops. Jung is struggling at Toledo. I'd hate to see them trade CRod. The White Sox will never forget trading Tatis Jr for Shields Quote
1984Echoes Posted June 18 Posted June 18 I am 99.999% certain Harris is not trading Cris Rodriguez for David Bednar. 1 Quote
KL2 Posted June 19 Posted June 19 5 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: I am 99.999% certain Harris is not trading Cris Rodriguez for David Bednar. Its Bowden, there is a reason he ain't a GM anymore Quote
Arlington Posted June 19 Posted June 19 18 minutes ago, KL2 said: Its Bowden, there is a reason he ain't a GM anymore He's a click bait specialist now. Quote
Tenacious D Posted June 19 Posted June 19 2 hours ago, Arlington said: He's a click bait specialist now. I took the bait. Please don’t kill the smokin’ hot messenger. Quote
chasfh Posted June 19 Posted June 19 I can’t think of any reason the Tigers would not trade Cris Rodriguez for David Bednar, but I can think of at least a couple reasons the Pirates wouldn’t trade David Bednar for Cris Rodriguez. 1 Quote
Tenacious D Posted June 19 Posted June 19 3 hours ago, chasfh said: I can’t think of any reason the Tigers would not trade Cris Rodriguez for David Bednar, but I can think of at least a couple reasons the Pirates wouldn’t trade David Bednar for Cris Rodriguez. I agree. I hope I’m underestimating Rodriguez’ potential. But I also wonder if you could package some combination of players from Anderson, Pacheco, Strong, Franyerber (yeah, I said it), to avoid trading the blue-chippers. Quote
KL2 Posted June 19 Posted June 19 5 hours ago, chasfh said: I can’t think of any reason the Tigers would not trade Cris Rodriguez for David Bednar, but I can think of at least a couple reasons the Pirates wouldn’t trade David Bednar for Cris Rodriguez. Cause it's a big overpay Quote
Hinchman11 Posted June 20 Posted June 20 (edited) These trade rumors proposals always come way down in what actually gets offered versus the media projections, especially for rentals, that’s why most happen on the final day. I think 90 percent were extremely underwhelmed with the Flaherty return of the 6th and 23 ranked prospect for a really good 2/3 SP. Edited June 20 by Hinchman11 Quote
1984Echoes Posted June 21 Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Hinchman11 said: These trade rumors proposals always come way down in what actually gets offered versus the media projections, especially for rentals, that’s why most happen on the final day. I think 90 percent were extremely underwhelmed with the Flaherty return of the 6th and 23 ranked prospect for a really good 2/3 SP. Excluding Cris Rodriguez (because I think Scott Harris would do so...); I would not trade our top 5 prospects or CR... but EVERYONE else 6-30 (and lower) is tradable to me. I'm not trying to trade the whole farm system either. 2 or 3 key pickups should be enough of a pick-me-up for the team... Eugenio Suarez to cover 3B? Would he cost #6 and #23? Right now that is Hao Yu Lee and Zach Swanson. Or do we just call up Lee and give him a shot? Maybe he becomes the new (and younger) Ibanez? We can mix and match 2B-SS-3B between Torres-Keith-Baez-Sweeney-Lee. Would Aroldis Chapman cost #6 and 23? More than that? An arm and a leg? Isn't that Madden and Franyerber? (An arm and a leg... get it?) A decent reliever or two (not at Chapman's level)? Jaden Hamm (7), Owen Hall (9), Troy Melton (11), Franyerber (12), Ty Madden (13), Schiefelbaum (14) should all be in consideration. Obviously not all of them, but 1 of them for each reliever (whether that is one or two) plus other lower prospects to complete the package. Quote
chasfh Posted June 21 Posted June 21 On 6/19/2025 at 12:59 PM, KL2 said: Cause it's a big overpay Which way? 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Rumor the Braves are thinking of putting Austin Riley on the block... I'm offering Jung, Anderson, Madden and ... Franyerber Montilla? Quote
RandyMarsh Posted June 25 Posted June 25 9 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Rumor the Braves are thinking of putting Austin Riley on the block... I'm offering Jung, Anderson, Madden and ... Franyerber Montilla? At first thought I felt that was way light for Riley but after checking his numbers he has been relatively meh the past couple seasons which I hadn't been paying attention to. Given that and the fact he doesn't exactly have a cheap contract then his value may not be as high as I originally thought and your proposal could be something they may go for. Quote
Tenacious D Posted June 25 Posted June 25 13 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Rumor the Braves are thinking of putting Austin Riley on the block... I'm offering Jung, Anderson, Madden and ... Franyerber Montilla? Never Franyerber! Quote
tiger2022 Posted June 25 Posted June 25 On 6/19/2025 at 12:11 PM, Tenacious D said: I agree. I hope I’m underestimating Rodriguez’ potential. But I also wonder if you could package some combination of players from Anderson, Pacheco, Strong, Franyerber (yeah, I said it), to avoid trading the blue-chippers. Going with the Avila approach...a bunch of bad prospects instead of one solid prospect....I dont know if all mlb teams look at their star players with such contempt Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted June 25 Posted June 25 On 6/20/2025 at 8:53 PM, 1984Echoes said: Excluding Cris Rodriguez (because I think Scott Harris would do so...); I would not trade our top 5 prospects or CR... but EVERYONE else 6-30 (and lower) is tradable to me. I'm not trying to trade the whole farm system either. 2 or 3 key pickups should be enough of a pick-me-up for the team... Eugenio Suarez to cover 3B? Would he cost #6 and #23? Right now that is Hao Yu Lee and Zach Swanson. Or do we just call up Lee and give him a shot? Maybe he becomes the new (and younger) Ibanez? We can mix and match 2B-SS-3B between Torres-Keith-Baez-Sweeney-Lee. Would Aroldis Chapman cost #6 and 23? More than that? An arm and a leg? Isn't that Madden and Franyerber? (An arm and a leg... get it?) A decent reliever or two (not at Chapman's level)? Jaden Hamm (7), Owen Hall (9), Troy Melton (11), Franyerber (12), Ty Madden (13), Schiefelbaum (14) should all be in consideration. Obviously not all of them, but 1 of them for each reliever (whether that is one or two) plus other lower prospects to complete the package. Half of the pitchers you listed are currently injured so they may not get you much. 😅 Quote
Tenacious D Posted June 26 Posted June 26 7 hours ago, tiger2022 said: Going with the Avila approach...a bunch of bad prospects instead of one solid prospect....I dont know if all mlb teams look at their star players with such contempt Except that no one I listed would be considered a bad prospect. Quote
tiger2022 Posted June 26 Posted June 26 (edited) 9 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Except that no one I listed would be considered a bad prospect. Your whole point was to trade those guys instead of "blue chippers". So they are either blue clippers or fringe prospects Edited June 26 by tiger2022 Quote
Shinzaki Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Tork is coming back down to earth...Anderson is capable of playing 1B and he's been raking from day one in the system. Do we consider moving on from Tork while his value is higher? Maybe not now...but in the off season? Quote
tiger2022 Posted June 26 Posted June 26 14 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: Tork is coming back down to earth...Anderson is capable of playing 1B and he's been raking from day one in the system. Do we consider moving on from Tork while his value is higher? Maybe not now...but in the off season? Might as well rush him to the majors too. He played most of last season in A ball and did okay, but he is 23 with 60 games this season in AA. Getting rid of Tork and bringing him up way before he is ready sounds like a disaster for the rest of the season and for the years ahead. Quote
Hongbit Posted June 26 Posted June 26 I’m necessarily taking about any specific Tiger prospect but it seems like we may need to change expectations on what constitutes rushed up. 5 players picked in the top 15 in last years draft are already in the majors with less than a full year of minor league ball. 9 players from the first round are already up from 2023 draft. Granted these are all college drafted players but the world is definitely changing. The time needed to season up prospects in the minors has been sped up. 1 Quote
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