2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[romad1]

4 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Giants just signed Diego Cartaya to a minor league deal. This guy was a the #14 overall prospect in 2023. The Dodgers, a really well run franchise full of smart people, resisted all requests to include him in trades for years. Then he collapsed and now is available for nothing as a minor league free agent. The opportunity cost of not trading Cartaya is hard to measure, but real and probably significant.

This is known as positive risk as a counter weight to negative risk.    If you don't get near the mummy it won't eat your heart but you won't get the treasures of ancient Egypt.   Or some more relevant and less specific example that doesn't lead to you thinking I've considered grave robbery. 

 

[Tiger337]

I'm not really thinking about Suarez much, because I think it's unlikely.  I won't be disappointed if they don't get  him because the price seems like it would be steep for a two-month rental.  I am not opposed to them trading top propects, but only if it's for someone who will be with the Tigers beyond this year.  I am hoping for a couple of high leverage relievers with good track records.    

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I'm not really thinking about Suarez much, because I think it's unlikely.  I won't be disappointed if they don't get  him because the price seems like it would be steep for a two-month rental.  I am not opposed to them trading top propects, but only if it's for someone who will be with the Tigers beyond this year.  I am hoping for a couple of high leverage relievers with good track records.    

Is the current rotation 

Skubal: Excellent

Mize:  Good to Great

Flaherty:  Ok, to Good

Paddack:  Wildcard possibly Good

Montero:  ? 

Melton:  ?

Is there a better starter out there?  

 

[romad1]

Sawyer Gibson Long and Alex Cobb are also lurking i guess.  

[RedTeamGo!]

1 minute ago, romad1 said:

Is the current rotation 

Skubal: Excellent

Mize:  Good to Great

Flaherty:  Ok, to Good

Paddack:  Wildcard possibly Good

Montero:  ? 

Melton:  ?

Is there a better starter out there?  

 

Paddack is horrible, I do not understand why so many teams were in on him. It was reported this morning multiple teams were bidding on him. 

[Tigermojo]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/07/rangers-tigers-interested-in-david-bednar.html

 

"The Tigers might be best positioned to make a deal for Bednar of this trio of teams, however. Bednar’s team control window lines up with that of ace southpaw Tarik Skubal, so adding him to the fold would allow Detroit to maximize Skubal’s time with the organization. The bullpen has emerged as a clear weak spot in an otherwise impressively deep organization, and Bednar closing out games with Will Vest and Tyler Holton setting him up would make for a much more imposing relief corps this October. What’s more, the Tigers have a number of well-regarded position player prospects in the upper levels of the minors, to say nothing of pieces with big league experience like Jace Jung and Trey Sweeney. It’s unclear just how much the Tigers would really be willing to part with in order to acquire Bednar, but they certainly have the sort of deep group of positional talent that could make them a very enticing trade partner for the Pirates."

[romad1]

3 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said:

Paddack is horrible, I do not understand why so many teams were in on him. It was reported this morning multiple teams were bidding on him. 

F it...go get Skenes

[RatkoVarda]

23 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said:

Paddack is horrible, I do not understand why so many teams were in on him. It was reported this morning multiple teams were bidding on him. 

because there is no second post waiver trade deadline, this is your one chance to add any arms, any innings. otherwise you are grabbing guys from the Independent League.

Getting Paddack and the Uber Driver was an insanely boring move, but also a smart move, especially with Olson gone. Hopefully we see neither one in the playoffs.

 

[RatkoVarda]

so what does Bednar cost? 2 of Malloy, Wenceel, Jung, Sweeney?

I think Pitts wants position players who can help now. If they keep Skenes, they need help today, not 2028.

[KL2]

56 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Suárez price seems to high. If it happens for us it would probably be a last minute decision when one side blinks. I don’t think it will happen though. 

At this point price is always speculated higher than it actually is. Remember last year one top 100 guy got moved.

[IdahoBert]

I’m prepared to be underwhelmed by what the Tigers do in the next couple days.

I’m prepared for them to do something of midling importance, maybe two things of midling importance and then they’ll hope that the last downturn was an inexplicable regression of sorts and will be correcting itself and in fact may be correcting itself right now. 

[4hzglory]

31 minutes ago, KL2 said:

At this point price is always speculated higher than it actually is. Remember last year one top 100 guy got moved.

And depending on what ranking site, 0 were.  

[StrangeBird]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

Sawyer Gibson Long and Alex Cobb are also lurking i guess.  

Jose Urquidy is another possible starter who could be ready to pitch for the Tigers in September. I don‘t think you want to rely on that much though. He‘s recovering from his second TJ surgery.

[alex]

55 minutes ago, KL2 said:

At this point price is always speculated higher than it actually is. Remember last year one top 100 guy got moved.

Yes, this happens way more than not, meaning everyone speculates one has to give up Top 100 guys to get anyone of significance - and it rarely happens (not never). Then the sought players of trade interest are dealt for much less in terms of 'prospect status' in the fans mind. However, teams have their own way to 'evaluate' and often do get more than what fans think was obtained up (ex last years Flaherty deal).

Hopefully SHarris can put a deal (or two) together with another GM and get someone to help the club. Though the Paddock deal on the surface may seem insignificant, it might very well help Detroit. Also, it shows that Harris did put effort into a deal and completed it. That is a good thing in and of itself. I have been questioning this part of his job. 

Goal: Not having to move the teams very top prospects (unless acquiring a good player with multiple years of control) and getting value in return.

[RatkoVarda]

going to say that Ilitch just took on $4M in salary for some pretty average pitching, a move that was only required because Harris pissed away $15M on Cobb.

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

going to say that Ilitch just took on $4M in salary for some pretty average pitching, a move that was only required because Harris pissed away $15M on Cobb.

So, is he a failure or did he just fail here? 

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

so what does Bednar cost? 2 of Malloy, Wenceel, Jung, Sweeney?

Oh my god I wish

[AlaskanTigersFan]

1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

so what does Bednar cost? 2 of Malloy, Wenceel, Jung, Sweeney?

I think Pitts wants position players who can help now. If they keep Skenes, they need help today, not 2028.

Posted this in the throw around ideas thread. Looking more and more realistic each day. (Please note general consensus is no on our end because everyone loves Rainer).

 

Tigers get:
Mitch Keller
K'Bryan Hayes
David Bednar
Thomas Harrington

Pirates get:
Rainer
Lirizano
Hamm
Vierling
(Not sure if we'd have to include Ty Madden to balance this out or not)

[Tenacious D]

I’d move Briceno, Hamm and Jung for Bednar and Keller.  Hard pass on Hayes.

[Shelton]

The MLB trade is an exciting time in the baseball world. Some teams will be buyers. Some teams will be sellers. Other teams may stand pat and bet on the guys they have!

We are going to have to wait and find out who was right and who was wrong, and that’s what makes baseball great. 

[romad1]

4 minutes ago, Shelton said:

The MLB trade is an exciting time in the baseball world. Some teams will be buyers. Some teams will be sellers. Other teams may stand pat and bet on the guys they have!

We are going to have to wait and find out who was right and who was wrong, and that’s what makes baseball great. 

This was so uplifting.  It was like the opposite of a humane society ad. 

[4hzglory]

28 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

Posted this in the throw around ideas thread. Looking more and more realistic each day. (Please note general consensus is no on our end because everyone loves Rainer).

 

Tigers get:
Mitch Keller
K'Bryan Hayes
David Bednar
Thomas Harrington

Pirates get:
Rainer
Lirizano
Hamm
Vierling
(Not sure if we'd have to include Ty Madden to balance this out or not)

Yeah, no thanks.  This would be a massive overpay, not to mention it's been reported the Tigers have zero interest in Hayes.  BA just said Rainer, if he didn't get hurt, had a realistic chance to be rated higher than Konnor Griffin who is their #1 ranked prospect currently - in other words he isn't getting moved to Pittsburgh unless Skenes is coming back:  

The Skinny: One of two high profile prep shortstops in the 2024 draft, Rainer hasn’t had the rise of Konnor Griffin in 2025, but if not for a season-ending shoulder injury he might have ranked even higher. Rainer is an advanced hitting shortstop with a plus power-hitting peak.

 

Bednar is the only one of the bunch I'd really want and I think he's more likely to cost  something like Jung and Anderson/Hamm than he is one of our top 6.  

They aren't also aren't trading Vierling.

[monkeytargets39]

I’m curious what the asking price is for Steven Kwan.  There’s rumors of the dodgers being interested in him.  

[4hzglory]

An interesting stat, we scored 6 of Kenley Jansen's 13 ER allowed this year in that 2/3 inning appearance.  Take out that Game and he's got a 1.64 ERA.  Not the high K guy, but he is 1K shy of 9K/9.  I'd rather have Helsley of the rental arms, but Jansen wouldn't be awful.  (I don't see the Red Sox selling as they are in the 3rd wild card, but Chapman would be my top rental reliever if he were available.)

[4hzglory]

6 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I’m curious what the asking price is for Steven Kwan.  There’s rumors of the dodgers being interested in him.  

Love Kwan, but wouldn't want to give what it would take to get him (with multiple years of control) when our OF isn't much of a need.