AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 19 Author Posted July 19 I just think its fun to guess what a trade could be..... Or what an armchair GM would propose. Guess I'm alone lol. Quote
tiger2022 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 (edited) On 7/17/2025 at 5:59 PM, AlaskanTigersFan said: What do you all think it'd cost to get Suarez or Alcantara? Sandy Alcantara? Why would any team want him for a playoff run? He's the worst starting pitcher in the league. It's not hard to find a guy who gives up almost 8 runs per 9 innings. A team looking for a reclamation project is about it And people are really over valuing Jung's value. A guy who has no position and has struggled at the plate is not going to return a lot Edited July 19 by tiger2022 Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 23 Author Posted July 23 K. Eugene Suarez. Whats your offer for him? Jung, + Liranzo or Lee I think would get it done. Thoughts? Quote
Tenacious D Posted July 23 Posted July 23 10 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: K. Eugene Suarez. Whats your offer for him? Jung, + Liranzo or Lee I think would get it done. Thoughts? With so many potential buyers, it’s hard to speculate what will be enough. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 23 Author Posted July 23 21 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: With so many potential buyers, it’s hard to speculate what will be enough. Come on. Take a swig of Jack Daniels and throw out your guess at least. Quote
tiger2022 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Is Brent Rooker available? He just signed a 5 year, $60 million deal. Thats a great contract, considering they gave Alex Cobb $15 million. Probably not but I'd call them to find out Quote
tiger2022 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 I'll go big but I am sure pizza boy would never take on the contract and the Angels would probably never do the trade. Mike Trout for Jackson Jobe, Bryce Rainer, and another pitching prospect...maybe Melton? Maybe the angels would just laugh at it Quote
RatkoVarda Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 minute ago, tiger2022 said: I'll go big but I am sure pizza boy would never take on the contract and the Angels would probably never do the trade. Mike Trout for Jackson Jobe, Bryce Rainer, and another pitching prospect...maybe Melton? Maybe the angels would just laugh at it Harris would be fired 10 seconds later. Quote
tiger2022 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) Why? Trout as DH would be better than 3 minor leaguers who will all be busts or below average mlbers. You guys don't want the Tigers to try to win the World Series by giving up guys that will probably end up sucking in the majors? Majix Beans. Edited July 23 by tiger2022 Quote
tiger2022 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 4 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: Harris would be fired 10 seconds later. You really think he has the authority to make a trade without Ilitch's consent? Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 23 Author Posted July 23 13 minutes ago, tiger2022 said: I'll go big but I am sure pizza boy would never take on the contract and the Angels would probably never do the trade. Mike Trout for Jackson Jobe, Bryce Rainer, and another pitching prospect...maybe Melton? Maybe the angels would just laugh at it Ryan O'Hearn and Max Muncy would be a fraction of the cost and same production....... But I'd love to get O'Hearn. Something like Lirazono for him. Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) Wants: Jacob DeGrom. Eugenio Suarez. One "misses bats" reliever less than 30 y.o. (choose from amongst): Mason Miller, Cade Smith, Emmanual Clase, Abner Uribe, Jhoan Duran. Willing to trade: One of Mize/ Olson (if getting a DeGrom or a Joe Ryan... keep one/ trade one), Liranzo, Lee, Hamm, Hall, Jace Jung, Max Anderson, Montilla, Montero, Madden, Campos, Miller, Montalvo... Pretty much anyone except a select few in order to get deals done. I think Tork would become available as part of a trade if it included a more consistent righty power bat that isn't over 30... Austin Riley of the Braves would be my target. Plays 3rd, put Keith at 1B, also makes Jung and Anderson eminently excess to trade... IMO. Edited July 23 by 1984Echoes Quote
SoCalTiger Posted July 23 Posted July 23 3 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: K. Eugene Suarez. Whats your offer for him? Jung, + Liranzo or Lee I think would get it done. Thoughts? Not trading Liranzo and Lee for 2 months of Suarez whose power will play less in Detroit and his defense could cost us dearly. Rental bats just do not command a big haul. JHM and Madden. Tops. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Remember the following when trading prospects for rentals : 1. No guaruntee the prospect will ever make or excel in the Majors BUT : 2. No guarantee the acquired player will perform well down the stretch AND 3. No guarantee EVEN IF the acquired player performs well we will win in the playoffs. So trades, any trade at any time, must be equal value or better in return. Do not panic. Keep the Program growing. 2 Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 23 Author Posted July 23 47 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: Not trading Liranzo and Lee for 2 months of Suarez whose power will play less in Detroit and his defense could cost us dearly. Rental bats just do not command a big haul. JHM and Madden. Tops. I wouldn't trade Liranzo and Lee. I was saying one or the other with Jung. I think Jung is done in Detroit...... I'll be shocked if there's a deal done with him not included. I just think he's fallen too far down the totem pole. Quote
chasfh Posted July 23 Posted July 23 We don't need a first baseman, so I would think trading for Ryan O'Hearn is a non-starter. I also don't think Arizona will be so quick to sell, given how they just shoveled a bunch of money into Corbin Burnes's and Ketel Marte's pocket, as well as Corbin Carroll and Eduardo signed for big money just last year. Also, they're only 5-1/2 games out of the wild card with a third of the season to play, and while I would agree that they have much chance at all to make the playoffs, I'm hearing they themselves might not see it that way. Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 23 Posted July 23 The flipside is that a team that is teetering near the playoffs might be more amenable to trading if they are getting "MLB-ready" prospects instead of low-A lottery tickets. Trade a pending free agent and get a couple guys that might help in 2026. That may benefit the Tigers if Jung, Lee, etc... are looked at as possible decent MLB players and "MLB ready or near-ready" and a trade could be worked out. I have no idea what GM's are thinking along any of these lines... I'm just sayin'. Another flipside is: Is Lee worth US taking a shot at promoting him and seeing if he helps on the IF, and as a righty bat? Do we have one, or a couple internal guys that just might be the "answer" to a couple of current team issues? As someone suggested: Melton could be slotted into the bullpen and pitch some high leverage innings down the stretch. Just a few thoughts rolling around in my head... Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 23 Posted July 23 PPS: Parker Meadows also becomes tradeable if we trade for someone like Bo Bichette... Stick Baez in center until his contract runs out or Clark is ready; whichever comes first. Just sayin'... 1 Quote
1776 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 This should be a very interesting trade deadline for Detroit/Harris. The team hasn’t been in this position at this point of the season in some time now. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted July 23 Posted July 23 3 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: PPS: Parker Meadows also becomes tradeable if we trade for someone like Bo Bichette... The first place Blue Jays are not trading their starting SS so they can downgrade CF from Varsho to Meadows. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) I suspect that due to our current skid, a lot of fans are going to be clamoring for Scott Harris to deal from the top of the system for players with great baseball card stats right now, in a bid to go for broke this year. (I am setting aside the idea of dealing mid-tier prospects like Jace Jung and Hao Yu-Lee for current All-Stars like Eugenio Suarez or Ryan O'Hearn or Emmanuel Clase or Brent Rooker, deals literally no GM on the other side would ever agree to.) Regardless of whether we could structure the kind of deal that could pry an All-Star off another team's roster, I don't think Scott Harris would do that kind of deal, and not because I think he's too scared or green to do a deal like that, but because I think he might believe the team is not at the organizational peak he or Ilitch envisions. Although people may not agree with this and think we should go for broke every time we have a chance to go to the playoffs, I believe Harris thinks he is still in the stages of building up to a vision of a peak team that will include key components from the current team, like Tork and Riley and Colt and Parker and Casey and Reese and Jobe and possibly Dingler, with certain guys still in the minors, like Max and McGonigle and Rainer and Liranzo. I think he is envisioning a time when most or all those guys are here and contributing, probably in the 2027-29 range, and that has no interest in either trading any of those guys, nor picking up anyone who would spend even a minute blocking them starting next year. Harris has a long-term plan and I believe he fully intends to see it to fruition, regardless of what facts on the ground are telling him now. Contrast our situation with that of the Cubs. Their roster is at peak right now, with Amaya, Busch, Hoerner, Swanson, Shaw, Happ, Crow-Armstrong, Tucker, and Suzuki all either fully mature or recently matriculated to the big club, with a potential rotation, if healthy, of Steele, Imagana, Boyd, Horton, Taillon, and Assad. They had already traded an All-Star 3B and two top 100 prospects for potentially only one year of Tucker, and they have a lot of prospect capital to deal for the pitchers they need to step in for those on the List now, particularly Steele, or will be by end of season. The Cubs are fully peaked and built to go for it all right now, especially since Jed Hoyer is at the end of his GM contract, so you can bet your sweep bippy he's gonna spend whatever has to to guide the team to win a ring this year, because at Wrigley Field, the current situation is, tomorrow never knows. Now is the time. They are on record with that. The Tigers, by contrast, have played with house money this entire season with a more or less patchwork roster as we've worked our way up to best record in the American League which, amazingly, was still the case this morning even after losing eight of our last nine. Our peak team is not now, as it is with the Cubs. Our peak team still in the future. That's why I don't see Scott Harris going for broke and liquidating top prospects for any guy with great baseball card stats this year. I see him going more for tactical fill-ins where we need them most, specifically (1) strike-em-out bullpen help, maybe a Ronny Henriquez, or a fireballing groundballer like Jose A Ferrer, and (2) probably a rotation piece, an under-the-radar guy like Eury Perez or Ryan Feltner or Michael Soroka. He might not get any of these guys if all these potential partners are insisting on unrealistic returns like, I don't know, Max and McGonigle for Henriquez and Perez. But I do think that is the pond he will be fishing in next week. Edited July 23 by chasfh Quote
tiger2022 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Everyone thinks all the Tigers prospects are going to be hall of famers or perennial all stars at worst. They have a chance at the world series this season. They need to take it because there is a good chance those guys will end up like all those amazing Baltimore Oriole prospects everyone on this board was gushing their pants over....remember Cowser, Herjstad, Mayo, etc. Remember the guys that were going to dominate? Maybe 1 of the Tigers top guys turns out to be above average or a star. Most of the pitchers are going to be Casey Mize-esque at best. The majority are going to be bench players or average players. Get mlb talent for them while they are worth something. Quote
papalawrence Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Harris is thinking long-term sustainability. He is very different than DD. I don't expect they'll jump into bidding wars. Quote
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