monkeytargets39 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 4 minutes ago, Edman85 said: I would offer the QO to Torres and Flaherty. The pick the Tigers get (if they are still getting revenue sharing money) if they decline would be pretty high with four of the final six picks in the draft being known the CBT penalty box and their picks being moved back 8 spots. That would like be a 26th and 27th pick or something in that range. Does that work the same way when a player declines their option? Would the QO have to be more than what was declined? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 6 minutes ago, Edman85 said: I would offer the QO to Torres and Flaherty. The pick the Tigers get (if they are still getting revenue sharing money) if they decline would be pretty high with four of the final six picks in the draft being known the CBT penalty box and their picks being moved back 8 spots. That would like be a 26th and 27th pick or something in that range. Seems like a no brainer, I can't see any downside risk if either of them accept and return. The IF could get a little crowded if McGonigle is ready to come up at some point next season. That situation could resolve itself if Meadows doesn't find his bat and Javy finishes his contract in CF. Quote
4hzglory Posted October 10 Posted October 10 15 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: Does that work the same way when a player declines their option? Would the QO have to be more than what was declined? The QO is for a set amount for all players. It’s expected to be around $22 mil for 2026. And yes, if he declines his option, we can offer it. Quote
Tenacious D Posted October 10 Posted October 10 3 hours ago, 4hzglory said: Why would we be trading him at the deadline? Especially after 2 consecutive playoff seasons, and with the last year of Skubal, they are not going to be going into the offseason thinking "Is player x going to lose value by the trade deadline?" "They are going to be does player X help us get to the postseason again with a chance to advance?" You just made my point for me. If they decide to trade him, it will be this offseason. I doubt they’ll let he and Skubal both walk. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted October 10 Posted October 10 1 hour ago, Dan Gilmore said: No octopus tossing! It's amazing that he ruined his arm tossing underhand, very slowly Quote
4hzglory Posted October 10 Posted October 10 41 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: You just made my point for me. If they decide to trade him, it will be this offseason. I doubt they’ll let he and Skubal both walk. I think there is close to zero chance they trade Skubal and that it’s considerably more likely they try and extend Mize rather than trade him. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 1 hour ago, 4hzglory said: The QO is for a set amount for all players. It’s expected to be around $22 mil for 2026. And yes, if he declines his option, we can offer it. Gotcha. It’d make sense for him to decline his option and then take the QO. 1 Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Aren't we forgetting to include Troy Melton's upcoming Tommy John surgery? Seems like a rite of passage....... 1 Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted October 11 Posted October 11 If Skubal is starting on opening day, Illitch needs to sell the team the minute after he fires Harris. This would be the greatest catastrophe in the history of Detroit Sports. And that's saying something........ Quote
chasfh Posted October 14 Posted October 14 On 10/10/2025 at 4:32 PM, Tiger337 said: Right, you need to go into the season with at least 7 viable starters. I agree they should seven guys they can slot into a rotation if needed, although practically by definition, your #6 and #7 starters will end up being no better than #4 or #5 in your rotation even if you need them, and it would be even worse if they're replacing two of your top three, and that would be a suboptimal rotation. Meaning, we're not going to be carrying seven guys who could all be top three in a playoff rotation. We're going to have a couple of Keider Monteros in such a mix. That's what signing Cobb and Urquidy and trading for Morton and Paddack was supposed to accomplish. Quote
Tenacious D Posted October 14 Posted October 14 I suspect Urquidy will be in the mix nest season. His contract is only $4M in ‘26– a bargain compared to recent lottery picks, Maeda and Cobb. Quote
chasfh Posted October 15 Posted October 15 22 hours ago, Tenacious D said: I suspect Urquidy will be in the mix nest season. His contract is only $4M in ‘26– a bargain compared to recent lottery picks, Maeda and Cobb. They're definitely going to give him a look. They're going to give a few guys a look. I also think we're going to have to get at least one guy to replace Flaherty, and maybe another one-year guy to push Jobe. It won't be in-house options only. Quote
HeyAbbott Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) How sure are the forum's medical mavens that Olson pitches next year? He spent the whole year on rehab, practically speaking. Edited October 16 by HeyAbbott Quote
Tigermojo Posted October 16 Posted October 16 13 minutes ago, HeyAbbott said: How sure are the forum's medical mavens that Olson pitches next year? He spent the whole year on rehab, practically speaking. "RHP Reese Olson Injury: Right shoulder strain IL date: July 28 (60-day IL) Expected return: 2026 Status: Working on throwing progression, but not yet throwing bullpen sessions and not close to competition. (Updated Oct. 14)" Hopefully he will be fine. No surgery but he's not fully recovered yet. Quote
Tenacious D Posted October 16 Posted October 16 20 minutes ago, HeyAbbott said: How sure are the forum's medical mavens that Olson pitches next year? He spent the whole year on rehab, practically speaking. Think it’s Olsen <ducks> Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 16 Posted October 16 19 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Think it’s Olsen <ducks> Smartass. 😉 Quote
Tiger337 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 I never like to make assumptions about injured pitchers. I hope Olson has a strong healthy season, but I am not penciling him for 30 games or anything close to that. They need to acquire another legitimate MLB starter even if Flaherty stays. 2 Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 2 hours ago, HeyAbbott said: How sure are the forum's medical mavens that Olson pitches next year? He spent the whole year on rehab, practically speaking. Supposedly he may have been available had we made the WS. Seems like he would be good to go for Spring. Quote
This is the year Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Im thinking Skubal-Olson-Mize-Flarety-Melton are the starters. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, This is the year said: Im thinking Skubal-Olson-Mize-Flarety-Melton are the starters. I’d like to see us sign one more legitimate starter—maybe Dylan Cease—and start Olson or Flaherty as a late inning reliever—and then convert them back to starter when the inevitable injury happens. Depending on when Jobe is able to return, maybe use him in a late inning role as well. I’d trust that more than bringing in bargain bin relievers who are free agents. I would also like to get Danny Coloumbe so we have a better LHP out of the pen than the Holton/Hurter combo Edited October 16 by monkeytargets39 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17 Posted October 17 3 hours ago, This is the year said: Im thinking Skubal-Olson-Mize-Flarety-Melton are the starters. Hinch was pretty clear in his statement that Melton was a starter, he just didn't say where. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted October 17 Posted October 17 I really don’t think Flaherty is going to pick up his option. He can do better elsewhere, especially in years. Unless we give him years, which, that would make me nervous. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17 Posted October 17 (edited) 24 minutes ago, chasfh said: I really don’t think Flaherty is going to pick up his option. He can do better elsewhere, especially in years. Unless we give him years, which, that would make me nervous. I think this one is a reasonably close call. And if he does decline do the Tigers make the QO? I think that's an easier 'yes' call. If the Tigers don't that tells me Harris is pretty confident he can do better somewhere else, but it would also make me wonder if that confidence is justified. 🐰 Edited October 17 by gehringer_2 Quote
HeyAbbott Posted October 17 Posted October 17 BTW, Tigers.com lists the name as Olson. I am not sure what Flaherty will do, I don't think he stays. I doubt how long Olson lasts in 2026 and I doubt Jobe's impact. An absolute minimum one one quality starting pitcher is required. That assumes some maturation as a pitcher by some of the internal candidates. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 17 Posted October 17 15 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said: I’d like to see us sign one more legitimate starter—maybe Dylan Cease—and ... I like the sign-Cease idea. Don't know the cost or if he even has interest in Detroit... But I like the idea... Quote
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