papalawrence Posted October 15 Posted October 15 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: This was season for Wenceel to improve on his 1st season and cement his future. Instead he treaded water - ended up with almost zero net improvement. Pretty much mush rather than cement. I see Wenceel having a nice ~ 8-9 year career, mostly as a solid utility player. He has value similar to McKinstry level. But neither are long term starter talent. Quote
Tigermojo Posted October 15 Posted October 15 21 minutes ago, romad1 said: I mean, if he's literally Doctor Who. I am a nerd with zero Doctor Who knowledge. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 21 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: I am a nerd with zero Doctor Who knowledge. Mine ended with Tom Baker (who is apparently still kicking in his 90's) 1 Quote
casimir Posted October 15 Posted October 15 6 hours ago, Tiger337 said: It's hard to imagine Jones not staying on the roster, especially given their need for right-handed batters. I don’t know. Perhaps this season was simply lightning in a bottle for Jones. Quote
romad1 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 23 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: I am a nerd with zero Doctor Who knowledge. I have only the barest knowledge of all of it. The guys who smoked dope after school were into that. I was into D&D. Quote
Tigermojo Posted October 15 Posted October 15 16 minutes ago, romad1 said: I have only the barest knowledge of all of it. The guys who smoked dope after school were into that. I was into D&D. If you mentioned Drizzt Do'Urden then I would know what you are talking about. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Munetaka Murakami - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25259728-munetaka-murakami-babe-ruth-higo-really-worth-hype I wonder if Harris would dip his toes into the international market........? Quote
Tiger337 Posted October 16 Author Posted October 16 1 hour ago, casimir said: I don’t know. Perhaps this season was simply lightning in a bottle for Jones. That could very well be true, but there should be a 40-man roster spot for him. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted October 16 Posted October 16 2 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Munetaka Murakami - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25259728-munetaka-murakami-babe-ruth-higo-really-worth-hype I wonder if Harris would dip his toes into the international market........? Yeah, he'll get paid. But a possible 30% strikeouts rate? And upper body injuries? Hard pass...go after Bichette? Quote
Tiger337 Posted October 16 Author Posted October 16 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Yeah, he'll get paid. But a possible 30% strikeouts rate? And upper body injuries? Hard pass...go after Bichette? They won't get either one. They are going to make another run at Bregman and fall short. Don't worry though. They'll sign a pitcher coming off an injury and another one that used to be good 5 years ago. They'll also get a bunch of relievers off the waiver wire and trade Malloy for a gritty utility guy. Edited October 16 by Tiger337 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted October 16 Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: They won't get either one. They are going to make another run at Bregman and fall short. Don't worry though. They'll sign a pitcher coming off an injury and another one that used to be good 5 years ago. They'll also get a bunch of relievers off the waiver wire and trade Malloy for a gritty utility guy. You kids shouldn't be so negative. 😆 Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Tucker is one guy, I'd build around. 8 years 250.... Gives us veteran leadership, star to build around and a legit bat year in and year out with good defense. That's the one guy I'd pony up for this off-season. Quote
papalawrence Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Tucker is one guy, I'd build around. 8 years 250.... Gives us veteran leadership, star to build around and a legit bat year in and year out with good defense. That's the one guy I'd pony up for this off-season. While I think his season likely dropped his value some, before the season started, the lowest projections I saw for his value on the market were 400+ and some speculated 500. I think 10/400 is a likely salary for him, and it won't be Detroit Quote
chasfh Posted October 16 Posted October 16 21 hours ago, Edman85 said: 47 now, Minimum 6 (Kahnle, Torres, Paddack, Montero, Finnegan, Cobb), maximum 9 (Flaherty, Sewald, Urquidy have options) leaving via free agency. Tanner Rainey seems like an auto-cut. This was my back-of-the-napkin 40 man math: 22 5 11 3 6 1 8 Lock Likely Stay Bubble Likely DFA/NT Free Agent Must Add Maybe Add Javier Baez Beau Brieske Jason Foley Sean Guenther Alex Cobb Hao Yu Lee Garrett Burhenn Kerry Carpenter Jack Flaherty Brenan Hanifee Tanner Rainey Kyle Finnegan Trei Cruz Dillon Dingler Jake Rogers Bailey Horn Paul Sewald Tommy Kahnle Thayron Liranzo Sawyer Gipson-Long Dylan Smith Andy Ibanez Rafael Montero Jake Miller Riley Greene Matt Vierling Jahmai Jones Chris Paddack Izaac Pacheco Tyler Holton Alex Lange Gleyber Torres RJ Petit Brant Hurter Chase Lee Gabriel Reyes Jackson Jobe Ty Madden Eduardo Valencia Jace Jung Tyler Mattison Colt Keith Drew Sommers Justyn-Henry Malloy Jose Urquidy Zach McKinstry Parker Meadows Troy Melton Casey Mize Keider Montero Reese Olson Wenceel Perez Tarik Skubal Trey Sweeney Spencer Torkelson Will Vest I think we're gonna take a run at keeping Finnegan, and maybe Montero, although he doesn.t exactly control the strike zone. I can see us also picking up Urquidy's option, depending on how he looks behind the curtain. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted October 16 Posted October 16 21 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: yeah - it can't be discounted. If he buys something more than 150 ft at the waterline for her the Tigers could be in trouble. Yeah, I think it can be discounted. More than that. Disregarded. It's bonkers to think he will torpedo a high-profile business just to spend the money on a broad instead. Quote
chasfh Posted October 16 Posted October 16 20 hours ago, IdahoBert said: Scott Harris is just doing it his way, like Frank Sinatra. And his way is working. Building up to his team takes time, effort, and development. There simply aren't any All-Star hitters available for the picking on the shelf at Walmart. Quote
Graterol Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Don’t see Harris making a splash for a position player in FA. Only possibilities I see are Bregman, Bichette, Polanco, and potentially Kim. Don’t see Tucker as realistic nor Bellinger as a good roster fit. I would be pretty surprised if there isn’t a minor trade given the plethora of mediocre 2B/3B types on the 40 man. Quote
chasfh Posted October 16 Posted October 16 20 hours ago, papalawrence said: With Starting pitcher acquisitions he more resembled Stevie Wonder Harris hoped to strike gold by picking up volume. It look like it might work for the first one or two starts, then it stopped working, so that approach did not bear fruit this year. But given that no one was eager to deal frontline starters, what should Harris have done instead? Merrill Kelly? It took the Rangers three top 15 pitching prospects to get him, it didn't work for them, and now Kelly is gone as a free agent. Shane Bieber? What do you suppose it would have taken the Tigers for get the Guardians to trade him to us? Dustin May? Lol. Zack Littell? He couldn't strike out a fly and his FIP was a run and a half higher than his ERA, and the buyers had to pull a third team into the trade to make it happen. Those are the top starters that moved in the market. 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted October 16 Author Posted October 16 23 minutes ago, chasfh said: I think we're gonna take a run at keeping Finnegan, and maybe Montero, although he doesn.t exactly control the strike zone. I can see us also picking up Urquidy's option, depending on how he looks behind the curtain. I think they'll be really interested in keeping Finnegan and he might want to stay given that he pitched better with them. It might be a small sample or it might be that they know how to work with him. Montero doesn't seem like he would be a priority for the reason you mentioned. 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted October 16 Posted October 16 I probably would have left Melton in the rotation. But then again, I also am increasingly suspicious that innings limits are pseudoscience. 2 Quote
Tiger337 Posted October 16 Author Posted October 16 30 minutes ago, chasfh said: Yeah, I think it can be discounted. More than that. Disregarded. It's bonkers to think he will torpedo a high-profile business just to spend the money on a broad instead. I am pretty sure nobody is posting seriously about this. Quote
Tiger337 Posted October 16 Author Posted October 16 5 minutes ago, Edman85 said: I probably would have left Melton in the rotation. But then again, I also am increasingly suspicious that innings limits are pseudoscience. Whatever they are doing isn't working and I am talking about all across the leagues not just the Tigers. Injuries are becoming no less prevalent with modern practices. I would have liked to have seen Montero and Melton left in the rotation. 2 Quote
chasfh Posted October 16 Posted October 16 13 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: Let's give Scott Harris a shopping list 🤣🤣 I could see us taking a run at Dylan Cease. Good strikeout guy, albeit with a slightly elevated walk rate, and his soft topline numbers are bolstered by some solid numbers under the hood. That might even save us a year. Given that he's coming out at age 30, I could see going for 4/100, although he'll probably want six years. His being a flyball pitcher might scare off teams with short parks, so that might help. As for the position players listed here, I don't know that we seriously go for any of them, even Bregman. I wouldn't mind seeing Bregman suit up for us for a couple years, but with Max Anderson taking reps at third (and looking good there!) and due to arrive next year, he might be the guy we're looking to step in there. We also have Hao Yu-Lee banging on the door. But if we throw 8/300 at Bregman instead, I'll gulp and support it. Quote
chasfh Posted October 16 Posted October 16 12 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I am pretty sure nobody is posting seriously about this. At least one guy is. Quote
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