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I’m having Craigslist impact to the newspaper industry vibes.  Non sports fans were helping to pay for our sports coverage because they “needed”cable.  Now they don’t need cable.  Peoole advertising for cars or jobs were paying for investigative journalism. Once you ask people if they explicitly want to pay for something many say no.  So those making the money see an easy cash stream dry up and those who want it end up paying more. 

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51 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Looking around, and this may not be complete, here's how other teams have handled this since they got taken over by MLB.

Across MLB, it looks pretty universal. Each Team has its own app, somebody in market can pay $19.99 to watch the games in a year. A portion of the games are simulcast on local TV. Don't forget some teams lost their RSN in 2023, several more last year. The only thing groud-breaking about this is MLB is subsidizing the Red Wings too.

I don't see how this helps the Tigers' bottom line relative to their past FSD deal.

Is that $19.99 per month?

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I just wish the Tigers would release the radio and TV schedules for the year. So far only the Orioles and the Yankees have released broadcast schedules. Oh yeah, and the Twins, but they are always only playing somebody called the Golden Gophers.

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15 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Season, I believe.

 I hope thats how they go. That would be very affordable. And I agree with you questioning how that could possibly be better for the team over a FanDuel deal.

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5 hours ago, Edman85 said:

The only thing I hate more than the "Give 100% of the credit for player's success to the person in charge of baseball ops at the time" take is arguing the same thing over and over again.

 

Actually I hate several things more than both: seafood for one.

Seafood is the worst.  I'm a picky eater and there are a lot of things I don't eat, but most of them are either not healthy or they can be replaced by something else which is just as healthy, so it doesn't matter.  I eat reasonably healthy, but seafood is the one big healthy food group I am lacking.  I can't even stand the smell.  I know somebody is going to suggest a seafood that isn't too bad, but I still won't eat it.   

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When Ballys or whatever had their dispute with Xfinity it was $20 a month for the access via their app.   My bill went down $10 since it wasn’t there so my real cost was $10. That lasted a few months I believe. 

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1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

Is that $19.99 per month?

 

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

Season, I believe.

It’s 20 bucks per month for the guardians.tv, and I’m sure it will be the same for the tigers. 
 

Hard to say whether it will be part of directv stream or fubo. Probably directv stream. Fubo is acting as if they are in sundown mode so I doubt they agree to carry the new feed. 
 

I do think there is a chance it becomes available on YouTube tv. But if it does it will probably have an added fee (like Fubo had its regional sports fee that they didn’t advertise but was part of the final monthly cost).

Personally, I’m happy that it will probably integrate well with mlb.tv, which I will also have, and now I won’t have to exit the app to watch the tigers. 

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15 minutes ago, Shelton said:

 

It’s 20 bucks per month for the guardians.tv, and I’m sure it will be the same for the tigers. 
 

Hard to say whether it will be part of directv stream or fubo. Probably directv stream. Fubo is acting as if they are in sundown mode so I doubt they agree to carry the new feed. 
 

I do think there is a chance it becomes available on YouTube tv. But if it does it will probably have an added fee (like Fubo had its regional sports fee that they didn’t advertise but was part of the final monthly cost).

Personally, I’m happy that it will probably integrate well with mlb.tv, which I will also have, and now I won’t have to exit the app to watch the tigers. 

It would be good for me if it is carried on YouTube TV. The FDS app really stinks.

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1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

$240 for the standalone FDS app 

I don't think you get in the door for less than $100/month at DirectTV, certainly not on a plan that you can add Fanduel to, so call it $106/mo minimum. The question is how much value do we get out of the rest of what is on DirectTV, and to me that answer is precious little. The SO would not be in complete agreement there however.......

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5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I don't think you get in the door for less than $100/month at DirectTV, certainly not on a plan that you can add Fanduel to, so call it $106/mo minimum. The question is how much value do we get out of the rest of what is on DirectTV, and to me that answer is precious little. The SO would not be in complete agreement there however.......

YouTube TV is $73 per month and the FDS app is $20....but I also have Hulu, Netflix and Apple. My MLB TV subscription renews in May.

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1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Seafood is the worst.  I'm a picky eater and there are a lot of things I don't eat, but most of them are either not healthy or they can be replaced by something else which is just as healthy, so it doesn't matter.  I eat reasonably healthy, but seafood is the one big healthy food group I am lacking.  I can't even stand the smell.  I know somebody is going to suggest a seafood that isn't too bad, but I still won't eat it.   

I'll give people a lot leeway on seafood because it's hard to buy right and harder to cook right. You normally can't get much of anything that's edible from any chain grocer like a Kroger.

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I’ll eat fish and salmon but it doesn’t bring me joy and is never a top choice.  It’s usually for a “light night” when we have to be good. I do like shellfish though. I would eat that every day. 

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40 minutes ago, oblong said:

I’ll eat fish and salmon but it doesn’t bring me joy and is never a top choice.  It’s usually for a “light night” when we have to be good. I do like shellfish though. I would eat that every day. 

I think the biggest thing is that fish does not keep, and Americans are used to meat meaning beef, which you can leave thawed in a fridge for a week and still be perfectly fine. Once a piece of frozen fish thaws you literally have minutes to start cooking it if you want to preserve its quality. And then you have the insane practice of American grocers that receive their fish frozen (as virtually all fish is shipped frozen) and then thaw it out to sell it to buyers that take it home and freeze it again. By the second thaw you might as well toss it as it probably already stinks.

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In about 5 years all sports will be behind a pay wall.  They are potentially locking out a whole generation of younger fans who will decide they'd rather not spend X-amount to watch sports when they can do other stuff with their time and money.  And almost anyone under 50 does not have cable or direct TV or anything like that.  

Baseball really needs to reevaluate their model for the future because it's a sport where mainly older people watch.  I know of very few young people that will watch a baseball game.  Not saying there aren't younger fans, but baseball isn't like football, hockey or even basketball.  There is a lot of standing around and doing nothing during a baseball game. 

 

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My bad, it is a monthly fee... I would pay that in market. It looks like in past years it comes with a discounted MLB.TV bundle.

Not sure how it will work with ESPN getting their mitts in everything.

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57 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

In about 5 years all sports will be behind a pay wall.  They are potentially locking out a whole generation of younger fans who will decide they'd rather not spend X-amount to watch sports when they can do other stuff with their time and money.  And almost anyone under 50 does not have cable or direct TV or anything like that.  

Baseball really needs to reevaluate their model for the future because it's a sport where mainly older people watch.  I know of very few young people that will watch a baseball game.  Not saying there aren't younger fans, but baseball isn't like football, hockey or even basketball.  There is a lot of standing around and doing nothing during a baseball game. 

 

That's where the gambling comes in.  Young people won't watch baseball to watch baseball.  They'll watch baseball to check on the gambling performance.

 

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2 minutes ago, oblong said:

That's where the gambling comes in.  Young people won't watch baseball to watch baseball.  They'll watch baseball to check on the gambling performance.

 

I think they will watch highlights on YouTube or some other app.  That's what has happened to the NBA.  Their ratings are awful in the USA.  

China loves the NBA.  Maybe baseball will have to do something similar and focus on other areas of the world.  

The USA cannot even support 30 teams as attendance is awful for some of the teams.

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1 hour ago, tiger2022 said:

In about 5 years all sports will be behind a pay wall.  They are potentially locking out a whole generation of younger fans who will decide they'd rather not spend X-amount to watch sports when they can do other stuff with their time and money.  And almost anyone under 50 does not have cable or direct TV or anything like that.  

Baseball really needs to reevaluate their model for the future because it's a sport where mainly older people watch.  I know of very few young people that will watch a baseball game.  Not saying there aren't younger fans, but baseball isn't like football, hockey or even basketball.  There is a lot of standing around and doing nothing during a baseball game. 

 

There is a lot of standing around in football too.  I think that sport has benefitted from betting longer than any of the major American sports.  

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1 hour ago, tiger2022 said:

In about 5 years all sports will be behind a pay wall.  They are potentially locking out a whole generation of younger fans who will decide they'd rather not spend X-amount to watch sports when they can do other stuff with their time and money.  And almost anyone under 50 does not have cable or direct TV or anything like that.  

Baseball really needs to reevaluate their model for the future because it's a sport where mainly older people watch.  I know of very few young people that will watch a baseball game.  Not saying there aren't younger fans, but baseball isn't like football, hockey or even basketball.  There is a lot of standing around and doing nothing during a baseball game. 

 

I just want a simple way to watch the Tigers' games.

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9 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

There is a lot of standing around in football too.  I think that sport has benefitted from betting longer than any of the major American sports.  

True, but when there is action it is a lot more exciting than baseball, plus there is a time element associated with football...towards the end one team is hurrying up, frantically trying to score. Baseball players have never in the history of baseball tried to speed anything up.  Football also does a lot better job of marketing their product.

Plus, a channel like the RedZone was ingenious.  It wouldn't work for baseball.

And football plays 17 games, so each game in football is super important.  Baseball...not so much.  Players are marketed much better in football.  Baseball...People who don't follow it might know Ohtani and Judge and not a lot of other players.

I played baseball in college and loved to play, but it isn't super exciting to watch on TV. I personally think that nba basketball is unwatchable and hockey can be tough to watch because it's hard to follow the puck sometimes.  And I watch the red zone

 

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