2025-2026 Tigers Off Season Thread

[tiger2022]

Not lazy.  I have better things to do with my life.  I post on here when I am bored.

And if what goes on a Tigers message board is that important in your life, it has been a complete and utter failure.

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, Cruzer1 said:

I think Hinch might assign Skubal, then Flaherty, then Valdez just to keep the two lefties apart in the rotation.

I agree on the ordering.  I was talking about quality rather than order.  You want those two pitching more innings than anyone else.  

[Tiger337]

16 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Not lazy.  I have better things to do with my life.  I post on here when I am bored.

And if what goes on a Tigers message board is that important in your life, it has been a complete and utter failure.

Never being happy with anything your favorite team does is also not the best way to go through life.  On the other hand, predicting that every player on that team is going to fail guarantees that you'll never be disappointed.  

Edited 2 hours ago by Tiger337

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, Cruzer1 said:

I think Hinch might assign Skubal, then Flaherty, then Valdez just to keep the two lefties apart in the rotation.

 

10 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I agree on the ordering.  I was talking about quality rather than order.  You want those two pitching more innings than anyone else.  

Yeah, that makes sense. Maybe not to start the season but first chance he gets to reset the rotation. Except, I think it may be Mize in-between the lefties.

[Biff Mayhem]

22 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Not lazy.  I have better things to do with my life.  I post on here when I am bored.

And if what goes on a Tigers message board is that important in your life, it has been a complete and utter failure.

In the time it took you to make these replies, you could have proven your case. Just admit you spoke out your rear and move on. People here would respect that bit of honesty. This pride adherence is astonishing. 

[roarintiger1]

I believe that Hinch now has the better ability to match up his rotation against the opponents' possible pitching and the teams they are facing.  Of course only with the proper amount of days rest.  

You have to like the moves the Tigers have made on their pitching staff.  Now, if the hitters can actually hit and lower their strikeout rates..............

[Tiger337]

52 minutes ago, Biff Mayhem said:

In the time it took you to make these replies, you could have proven your case. Just admit you spoke out your rear and move on. People here would respect that bit of honesty. This pride adherence is astonishing. 

I was going to add more, but I only talk to Biff when I'm bored.  

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, Biff Mayhem said:

So you’ve got nothing and pride is preventing you from admitting that you stated a falsehood as truth. 
 

The person asserting that something was said has the onus to prove their assertion and saying “go back and read” is lazy. If you are really correct, you’ll show your proof. 

To be fair, many fans (and media) are dreaming about vintage JV coming back. Unrealistic expectations. 

Edited 43 minutes ago by Sports_Freak

[Sports_Freak]

#35....Justin Verlander. 

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

Obviously, you haven't read some of the posts on here.  

Receipts?

[Stormin]

46 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

To be fair, many fans (and media) are dreaming about vintage JV coming back. Unrealistic expectations. 

Dreaming and realistic expectations don't have to be mutually exclusive.  You can be excited  that JV is a Tiger again and hope JV performs well.  At the same time you can understand that the Tigers were probably a better team with Reese Olson in the rotation.

[IdahoBert]

Justin Verlander revealed he called Scott Harris, Chris Ilitch, and AJ Hinch “as soon as the season ended.” He wanted to return to the Tigers.

“I grew up in front of the fans in Detroit. I grew up in Detroit,” he said Thursday.

“At first, it didn't seem like there was much room for me. We had some very candid conversations, Scott and I, and unfortunately, there were some things that happened recently where some innings they were planning on — aren't going to be filled, so l think that opened the door. That's not the way you want it to go. Obviously, a lot of young talent here. They've done a great job of bringing guys in. But I'm happy to wear the Old English 'D' again and happy to be here.” 

— Brad Galli WXYZ

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

Not lazy.  I have better things to do with my life.  I post on here when I am bored.

But do you really have to come here and bore the rest of us? 😉 

[Tiger337]

5 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Last season was his first season back after fullly recovering from surgery. He was an All Star pitcher. That's his track record. Flaherty is way too inconsistent. He just seems to be going along and has an inning where he imploded. And JV has had a hall of fame career but is in his twilight. Mize is going to have a monster season. Book it...

Flaherty has had multiple seasons that were better than what Mize had last year.  Making the allstar team does not make someone an allstar caiber player.  Baez and McKinstry were allstars last year too.  All three had pretty good seasons, but I wouldn't tout any of them as allstars.  Mize has a history of mediocre strikeout rates.  Last year was his best season so far. Maybe, he is ready to break out.  

[chasfh]

OK, so, in tiger2022's defense, I do believe many people, including in the baseball media, are expecting (a step up from "hoping") that Verlander will deliver a solid WAR-positive 30+ starts for the Tigers. And yes, that could happen. He did have a solid Verlander-like final two months last season. he placed 14th of 54 qualifiers in ERA- and FIP- In August and September, although he did place 35th in xFIP, which is a reddish-pink flag. So, he wasn't super dominant, and his results were a bit lucky.

Stick around long enough, and every player will fall off the cliff eventually in a career-ending way. The chances that happens to Verlander in 2026 are fairly high.

Flip side, Verlander is already a freak of nature and he could also potentially have a whole year that is close to what he did last August and September, which could make him a solidly mid-rotation guy. Anything better than that would probably be into the upper-90th percentile of expected outcomes.

 

[Sports_Freak]

7 minutes ago, chasfh said:

OK, so, in tiger2022's defense, I do believe many people, including in the baseball media, are expecting (a step up from "hoping") that Verlander will deliver a solid WAR-positive 30+ starts for the Tigers. And yes, that could happen. He did have a solid Verlander-like final two months last season. he placed 14th of 54 qualifiers in ERA- and FIP- In August and September, although he did place 35th in xFIP, which is a reddish-pink flag. So, he wasn't super dominant, and his results were a bit lucky.

Stick around long enough, and every player will fall off the cliff eventually in a career-ending way. The chances that happens to Verlander in 2026 are fairly high.

Flip side, Verlander is already a freak of nature and he could also potentially have a whole year that is close to what he did last August and September, which could make him a solidly mid-rotation guy. Anything better than that would probably be into the upper-90th percentile of expected outcomes.

 

So...are you saying JV is an early season favorite to win the Cy Young Award? 🤣🤣🤣