11/22/26 8:00PM Pistons @ Bucks

[NYLion]

3 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Sure.  Create a scenario where the season ends with Detroit right at the salary cap.  Harris makes $26 million, so when his deal expires it would drop them $26 million under the cap.  Meaning they could spend $26 million on a new free agent.

The reality is, they are quite a bit over the cap.  Far enough that his expiring $26 million will not create any new space to sign someone.  That $26 million still comes off the books, obviously, but it doesn't create cap space to use on a new player.  You basically have three options at that point.

Option 1.  They like Harris and want him back next year.  They have his Bird rights and can go over the cap to keep him.

Option 2.  They want to move on from Harris, but still want to use his $26 million on a player.  Since letting his contract expire won't create cap space to use, you have to trade him for a guy making similar money.  If his contract is longer, you still have him on the roster next year.  If he also expires this summer, they would have his Bird rights and could go over the cap to sign him.   Much like Option 1 with Harris.

Option 3.  They don't want a player and prefer the $26 million just goes away.  Duren/Ivey need extensions this summer, Ausar next year.  So losing that $26 million off of the cap might be desirable.  

Ok, that clarified it for me. I really appreciate the detailed explanation

[Deleterious]

1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said:

 

So, keying on this part:

 

What are our options? Or who is the best trade target for us? ... That is available, and whom the other team will take on Harris (plus whatever else is required...).

I do think Markkanen is available for the right price.  But Ivey/Holland/Picks isn't getting it done.  Markkanen/Duren also forms one of the worst defensive 4/5 combos in the league.

I would give serious consideration to Zion if the price is right.  Harris/Sasser/Jones this year's 1st round pick.  Nothing more.

I would throw a big offer at New Orleans for Trey Murphy.  Harris/Ivey/Holland and 3 1st round picks for Murphy and Herb Jones.  

Reports are everyone on the Kings is available.  So you could get Lavine.  I wouldn't but they could.

I see fans mention Siakam.  I would be interested but I don't see Indiana trading him.

I would kick the tires on Julius Randle.  Fantastic on offense, bad on defense, so pairing him with Duren might not work.

Miles Bridges is probably available.  Another guy who is decent on offense, bad on defense.

People bring up Michael Porter Jr a lot from Brooklyn.  He's a bucket and can shoot the three.  His defense would have to improve quite a bit to be considered bad.  Seriously, one of the worst defenders in the entire league.

A lot of pretty flawed players on that list, which is why most of them are available, probably.  The only one I listed that really interests me is the Murphy/Jones trade.  There has been no indication Murphy is available.  But my offer is a big enough overpay they would have to at least consider it.

 

[Deleterious]

Love seeing two of our guys on that list

 

[Deleterious]

 

[papalawrence]

Still want to see what Ivey can bring before they trade him. Jenkins might be able to provide what Schroder did last season. Sample size still too small. I don't see Trajan swinging for the fences. Would have to be for a player that fits the dawg mold

 

[casimir]

20 hours ago, Deleterious said:

The Pistons schedule is just littered with terrible teams.  Looking ahead its hard to find a game where you think Detroit might lose.

Just enjoy the ride.

[casimir]

21 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Not a big fan of Stewart playing next to Duren. It puts him on the perimeter too much on defense and takes away his best quality, rim protection. So instead of Stewart anchoring the defense you have Duren.

Yes, I prefer tandems of Stewart with Harris and Duren with Holland.  It doesn’t have to be that all of the time.  And I think now with all of the healthy bodies, it’s time to mix and match and see what different combinations can do.

[gehringer_2]

13 minutes ago, casimir said:

Yes, I prefer tandems of Stewart with Harris and Duren with Holland.  It doesn’t have to be that all of the time.  And I think now with all of the healthy bodies, it’s time to mix and match and see what different combinations can do.

JB looks looks like he's comfortable doing more mixing and matching instead of playing fixed rotations, which is as it should be since every team you play presents different match-up issues.

[buddha]

no giannis makes the bucks easy pickings.