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40 minutes ago, oblong said:

It’s been humbling for me because I, like am sure every generation felt, that we learned the lessons and were better.  

I do think there are times when we've tried to do better, and for a while we were making progress. 

Unfortunately, for some even the small amount of progress we made was too much for their small minds to bear. And even worse was that there were enough of them, and enough money among them, to erase them.

Posted
17 hours ago, smr-nj said:

So let me see if I have this straight.
 

We’ve got people losing their damn minds over a 15 minute halftime show, when 6 million pages of child abuse, rape, and murder produces nary a “peep” out there.

What ****ing world is this? 

It's even "better" than that—the Republicans are trying to make the red hats lose their damn minds over a 15 minute halftime show to make them forget 6 million pages of child abuse, rape, and murder.

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3 hours ago, oblong said:

It’s been humbling for me because I, like am sure every generation felt, that we learned the lessons and were better.  

If you're talking about the Nazi thing, which I will respond to, I think a big part of why we unlearned that lesson is that all the people for whom that was living memory are gone, no longer in a position to remind us.

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2 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

I don't know. This sounds a lot like the pre MAGA GOP....

 

maybe or maybe not. GOP deregulation was always was around denial of the premise "we aren't hurting the environment or people - at least not enough to matter and anyway it's profits that make the rest of society function so bug off" 

Ezra's big thing is that we are so tied in knots we can't get things done for ordinary people in the public sector (like build transit) and that a lot of regulation like building codes have become captured by their industries, again driving up costs to consumers at very small or non-existent benefits to public safety and that we have gone overboard protecting private rights over the public interest. He's more about "we've let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Now whether taking that as a starting point gets you some place positive or not is always anyone's guess. 

There is a certain parallel to the 70's-80's Right wing critiques of welfare systems that motivated the break up of families, made work counter-productive etc. And some of those critiques were good ones and some reforms were improvements, but there were only ever a few GOP leaders who were  serious about reform as help for the poor instead of punishment of them. Jack Kemp maybe being the leader of that school back in the day.

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