oblong Posted Saturday at 03:43 PM Posted Saturday at 03:43 PM It’s been humbling for me because I, like am sure every generation felt, that we learned the lessons and were better. Quote
LaceyLou Posted Saturday at 04:26 PM Posted Saturday at 04:26 PM 40 minutes ago, oblong said: It’s been humbling for me because I, like am sure every generation felt, that we learned the lessons and were better. I do think there are times when we've tried to do better, and for a while we were making progress. Unfortunately, for some even the small amount of progress we made was too much for their small minds to bear. And even worse was that there were enough of them, and enough money among them, to erase them. Quote
chasfh Posted Saturday at 07:22 PM Posted Saturday at 07:22 PM 17 hours ago, smr-nj said: So let me see if I have this straight. We’ve got people losing their damn minds over a 15 minute halftime show, when 6 million pages of child abuse, rape, and murder produces nary a “peep” out there. What ****ing world is this? It's even "better" than that—the Republicans are trying to make the red hats lose their damn minds over a 15 minute halftime show to make them forget 6 million pages of child abuse, rape, and murder. Quote
chasfh Posted Saturday at 07:24 PM Posted Saturday at 07:24 PM 3 hours ago, oblong said: It’s been humbling for me because I, like am sure every generation felt, that we learned the lessons and were better. If you're talking about the Nazi thing, which I will respond to, I think a big part of why we unlearned that lesson is that all the people for whom that was living memory are gone, no longer in a position to remind us. Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted Saturday at 09:20 PM Posted Saturday at 09:20 PM No one is going to watch washed up Kid Rock tomorrow. N Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago I don't know. This sounds a lot like the pre MAGA GOP.... Quote
chasfh Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) “Pro-growth” sounds suspiciously like anti-labor, and “deregulatory” like anti-consumer. Edited 17 hours ago by chasfh Quote
LaceyLou Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Deregulatory also sounds like we're on the road back to smog alerts and rivers catching fire. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Quite the statement. Everyone In Japan is and has always been a culture hawk. it's all about China. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: I don't know. This sounds a lot like the pre MAGA GOP.... maybe or maybe not. GOP deregulation was always was around denial of the premise "we aren't hurting the environment or people - at least not enough to matter and anyway it's profits that make the rest of society function so bug off" Ezra's big thing is that we are so tied in knots we can't get things done for ordinary people in the public sector (like build transit) and that a lot of regulation like building codes have become captured by their industries, again driving up costs to consumers at very small or non-existent benefits to public safety and that we have gone overboard protecting private rights over the public interest. He's more about "we've let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Now whether taking that as a starting point gets you some place positive or not is always anyone's guess. There is a certain parallel to the 70's-80's Right wing critiques of welfare systems that motivated the break up of families, made work counter-productive etc. And some of those critiques were good ones and some reforms were improvements, but there were only ever a few GOP leaders who were serious about reform as help for the poor instead of punishment of them. Jack Kemp maybe being the leader of that school back in the day. Quote
Edman85 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago This, from the NYT Opinion Board, was good. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/09/opinion/regulate-legalized-marijuana.html?unlocked_article_code=1.K1A.l9ob.i9J3fa_X2ye2&smid=url-share Quote
pfife Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 11 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Quite the statement. Michigan sure knows how to pick em Quote
pfife Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 12 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: I don't know. This sounds a lot like the pre MAGA GOP.... Chew it and do it level hard pass Quote
pfife Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Thats the crew some people here think are owed your vote and if you dont vote for them everything is your fault Quote
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