POLITICS SCHMALITICS

[Motown Bombers]

Establishment Dems are supporting Mamdani even though leftists **** on Jeffries all the time.

 

[mtutiger]

3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

the problem is you would never know it listening to people like AOC. They haven't learned the art of supporting the team while playing your own game on the side. It's a curious paradox that diversity of person is such a mantra from the the prog left, which is fine, but they love ideological conformity just as much as any other movement.

It's worth noting that AOC was about as vocally supportive as anybody of Joe Biden as the walls were caving in post-debate last year.

So I think she's more of a team player than you are giving her credit for.

[mtutiger]

3 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

this is good baseline; if they do something this stupid and useless, when he ran on "kitchen table" issues, that would be a really bad sign

Again, having watched BJ operate in Chicago for a few years now, I'm going to take the way under on Mamdani being anywhere near as bad as BJ.

Just an otherworldly incompetent politician.... Pritzker has had to bail his ass out so many times.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

It's worth noting that AOC was about as vocally supportive as anybody of Joe Biden as the walls were caving in post-debate last year.

So I think she's more of a team player than you are giving her credit for.

I do give her credit for playing the 2024 election well, but I'm on her spamming list  - so I get some kind email almost daily, the stuff she is sending recently does not strike me as very useful for building a better winning coalition. Of course IMV, the time she has spent on the NYC mayoralty is a diversion anyway. I can't think of anyone from the NY mayors office from either party in recent decades who has successfully used that as a springboard to becoming a national leader/winning Federal office. Maybe MB should be happy if Mamdani wins in NYC because it probably means he will be politically cul-del-sac'd.  

Edited 2 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I do give her credit for playing the 2024 election well, but I'm on her spamming list  - so I get some kind email almost daily, the stuff she is sending recently does not strike me as very useful for building a better winning coalition. Of course IMV, the time she has spent on the NYC mayoralty is a diversion anyway. I can't think of anyone from the NY mayors office from either party in recent decades who has successfully used that as a springboard to becoming a national leader/winning Federal office. Maybe MB should be happy if Mamdani wins in NYC because it probably means he will be politically cul-del-sac'd.  

Giuliani was a front runner in 2008 until Biden ripped his soul out in the Democratic debate. I think that's why Giuliani has had it out for Biden. 

[GalagaGuy]

So because someone on the far left won a primary against a disgraced democrat, that means AOC can win all the swing states in 2028.   Is that what some are getting at? 

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, GalagaGuy said:

So because someone on the far left won a primary against a disgraced democrat, that means AOC can win all the swing states in 2028.   Is that what some are getting at? 

Its emboldens them now to push El-Sayed on Michigan voters. When he inevitably loses, they will claim it was rigged. 

[gehringer_2]

3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Giuliani was a front runner in 2008 until Biden ripped his soul out in the Democratic debate. I think that's why Giuliani has had it out for Biden. 

Guliani has always been a charlatan, his prosecutions were always politically motivated (even if the 5 families prosecution was a good one anyway), hiring Bratton was probably his best career move and it was notable he fired him when the police dept (and Stratton) starting getting too much credit for their police work....

[RatkoVarda]

 

[Motown Bombers]

Good luck nearly doubling the minimum wage and raising taxes to pay for free childcare and rent free government housing he is promising. The baby baskets are done in places like Finland. That could probably work.