tiger2022 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) He's 20 years old so projecting him to be amazing in the future is really tough. Not saying he won't be but lots of 20 year old top prospects (he'll be 21 in July) in A ball never make it to the majors. Over the years the Tigers have had so many can't miss prospects like Tyler Collins, Cale Iorg and guys like that. Edited 20 hours ago by tiger2022 Quote
tiger2022 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 8 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: His early stats are making him look like the 2026 AL Rookie of the Year. Trying to be realistic, if Delauter keeps playing close to how he is doing now, he'll not only win ROY but be in the running for MVP. Quote
ewsieg Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago If he keeps this up, does he go into the HOF with a Dodger, Yankee, or Mets hat? 1 Quote
4hzglory Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 24 minutes ago, tiger2022 said: He's 20 years old so projecting him to be amazing in the future is really tough. Not saying he won't be but lots of 20 year old top prospects (he'll be 21 in July) in A ball never make it to the majors. Over the years the Tigers have had so many can't miss prospects like Tyler Collins, Cale Iorg and guys like that. 😂🤣😂I don’t ever remember Tyler Collin’s even being a top prospect. Nor do I ever remember Iorg being can’t miss as I don’t think he was ever a top 100 prospect (although he was higher rated than Collin’s. just looked it up, Collin’s never had an OPS higher than .800 (in A ball) in the minors until .820 when he was sent down to Toledo in 2018. And he was a 6th round pick. Never can’t miss or a top prospect. Iorg was also a 6th round pick and never cracked a .740 OPS. Edited 19 hours ago by 4hzglory 1 1 Quote
4hzglory Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 8 minutes ago, tiger2022 said: Trying to be realistic, if Delauter keeps playing close to how he is doing now, he'll not only win ROY but be in the running for MVP. Right now it’s pretty close between the two. McGonigle plays the more premium position and plays it well. They both are doing well offensively. I’d be surprised if McGonigle doesn’t end up with the higher OPS, let alone the higher WAR. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, 4hzglory said: Right now it’s pretty close between the two. McGonigle plays the more premium position and plays it well. They both are doing well offensively. I’d be surprised if McGonigle doesn’t end up with the higher OPS, let alone the higher WAR. what McGonigle is doing is probably more sustainable than what Delauter is. He's a 1HR/25-30AB MiBL guy who has hit 5 in his first 50. That's more likely to be noise in the signal than McGonigle's BB/K ratio and OBP, but TBH, neither has that high a probability of continuing the rates they are on now. Edited 19 hours ago by gehringer_2 Quote
1984Echoes Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, 4hzglory said: He does have a 477 Ft HR and a lot of walks at least 1 hour ago, casimir said: The SO% seems really high compared to last season. It’s only 29 PAs and he did have a very good offensive debut in about 150 PAs last year in Lakeland. Hopefully it’s just a rough start. This is just too much of a small sample size to say anything, IMO. Someone is just suffering from premature whinging (I have him blocked so I'm quoting your responses, guys...), IMO. Quote
Tiger337 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, tiger2022 said: He's 20 years old so projecting him to be amazing in the future is really tough. Not saying he won't be but lots of 20 year old top prospects (he'll be 21 in July) in A ball never make it to the majors. Over the years the Tigers have had so many can't miss prospects like Tyler Collins, Cale Iorg and guys like that. Tyler Collins and Cale Iorg are you comps for McGonigle? You're just messing with us now. 1 1 2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Tyler Collins and Cale Iorg are you comps for McGonigle? You're just messing with us now. not sure if 2022 was talking about McG or Rainer but either way I agree I never remember Collins being treated as that much of a deal. IIRC Iorg did get a fair amount of early hype but it was pretty short lived because he never lived up to any of it. they kept pushing him up the system but he never really had a year that merited a promotion anywhere. Rainer already has a better year last year than Iorg ever had. Edited 18 hours ago by gehringer_2 1 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: not sure if 2022 was talking about McG or Ranier but either way I agree I never remember Collins being treated as that much of a deal. IIRC Iorg did get a fair amount of hype but it was pretty short lived because he never lived up to any of it. they kept pushing him up the system but he never really had a year that merited a promotion anywhere. yeah, I now see he was talking abour Rainier. Iorg got some hype from some local writers but was never that highly regarded in serious projections. Most of the hype was about his defense. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I guess every player is different when it comes to having their weaknesses exposed. Teams get the "book" out on how to pitch to hitters once they find their weakness. McGonigle has such good hand eye coordination and is capable of making adjustments during an at bat (!!!) that any book on him may never be known. The kid has a very bright future. It will be very interesting to see how he handles a slump, keeping one short is key. Pretty soon, we may be talking about him as an All Star?? Quote
Cruzer1 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 11 hours ago, tiger2022 said: Trying to be realistic, if Delauter keeps playing close to how he is doing now, he'll not only win ROY but be in the running for MVP. Top 2 qualify for ppi. Quote
4hzglory Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said: Top 2 qualify for ppi. Not for ROY, they have to win ROY, but top 3 for MVP prior to arbitration eligibility. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I guess every player is different when it comes to having their weaknesses exposed. Teams get the "book" out on how to pitch to hitters once they find their weakness. McGonigle has such good hand eye coordination and is capable of making adjustments during an at bat (!!!) that any book on him may never be known. The kid has a very bright future. It will be very interesting to see how he handles a slump, keeping one short is key. Pretty soon, we may be talking about him as an All Star?? he's going to be tested with a lot more breaking stuff, but that's not going to be easy either with a guy who takes a walk as well as McGonigle 1 Quote
chasfh Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 12 hours ago, 4hzglory said: 😂🤣😂I don’t ever remember Tyler Collin’s even being a top prospect. Nor do I ever remember Iorg being can’t miss as I don’t think he was ever a top 100 prospect (although he was higher rated than Collin’s. he's trolling 1 Quote
chasfh Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 10 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: not sure if 2022 was talking about McG or Rainer but either way I agree I never remember Collins being treated as that much of a deal. IIRC Iorg did get a fair amount of early hype but it was pretty short lived because he never lived up to any of it. they kept pushing him up the system but he never really had a year that merited a promotion anywhere. Rainer already has a better year last year than Iorg ever had. Fun fact: Cale Iorg played for Canada in the 2013 WBC. 1-for-12, six strikeouts. His highlight was hitting a sac fly. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 minutes ago, chasfh said: Fun fact: Cale Iorg played for Canada in the 2013 WBC. 1-for-12, six strikeouts. His highlight was hitting a sac fly. Garth was playing for the Jays when Cale was born... Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 36 minutes ago, chasfh said: Fun fact: Cale Iorg played for Canada in the 2013 WBC. 1-for-12, six strikeouts. His highlight was hitting a sac fly. Lazy question....were Rainer, Clark and McGonigle high draft picks because of all of the Tigers losing seasons? Harris and his team seemed to have found some good, very good, prospects. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Lazy question....were Rainer, Clark and McGonigle high draft picks because of all of the Tigers losing seasons? Harris and his team seemed to have found some good, very good, prospects. I looked it up; It says McGonigle 37th player player taken in the 1st round in the 2023 draft. 37th? Max Clark 3rd overall pick in 2023. Rainer 11th overall pick in 2024. Quote
4hzglory Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Lazy question....were Rainer, Clark and McGonigle high draft picks because of all of the Tigers losing seasons? Harris and his team seemed to have found some good, very good, prospects. Clark Yes. McGonigle was a competitive balance pick, so all 32 teams had a chance at him. Rainer was pick #11 so in the top 1/2, but not at the very top. Quote
4hzglory Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I looked it up; It says McGonigle 37th player player taken in the 1st round in the 2023 draft. 37th? Max Clark 3rd overall pick in 2023. Rainer 11th overall pick in 2024. We did get McGonigle with $ saved from taking Clark at below slot instead of Langford. Edited 6 hours ago by 4hzglory 1 Quote
chasfh Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Lazy question....were Rainer, Clark and McGonigle high draft picks because of all of the Tigers losing seasons? Harris and his team seemed to have found some good, very good, prospects. Clark was a high pick, #4 overall, after the 2022 season? Rainer was 11th overall after 2023. McGonigle was 37th, meaning every other team had at least one shot at him. For context, Tork was #1 overall, Casey was #1 overall, and Riley was #5 overall. Quote
Edman85 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago I don't know if anybody who can't spot the difference between Cale Iorg and Kevin McGonigle is worth even acknowledging. 1 1 3 Quote
romad1 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Edman85 said: I don't know if anybody who can't spot the difference between Cale Iorg and Kevin McGonigle is worth even acknowledging. Google AI says this The primary difference between Cale Iorg and Kevin McGonigle is their success and status within the Detroit Tigers organization, separated by nearly two decades of development. Kevin McGonigle is a top-ranked, high-impact left-handed hitting prospect who made the 2026 Opening Day roster as a rookie, while Cale Iorg was a highly-touted right-handed prospect (circa 2007-2011) known for his glove but who ultimately struggled to hit at higher minor league levels. Wikipedia +3 Here is a breakdown of the differences: Kevin McGonigle (Active) Status: An elite 21-year-old infielder (as of early 2026) who made the Detroit Tigers' Opening Day roster after bypassing Triple-A. Profile: A left-handed hitting infielder known for exceptional bat-to-ball skills, plate discipline, and high-impact contact (163 wRC+ in the minors in the 2020s). Draft: Selected in the Competitive Balance Round-A (37th overall) in the 2023 MLB Draft out of high school. Performance: Consistently hit over .300 in the minor leagues (Single-A to Double-A) and won the Florida State League MVP in 2024. Debut: Made a historic 4-hit MLB debut on March 26, 2026. Wikipedia +1 Cale Iorg (Retired) Status: A former top prospect (ranked 3rd in the organization in 2008) who never reached the MLB level. Profile: A right-handed hitting shortstop known as "glove-first," whose career was hampered by poor hitting performance at the Triple-A level (Toledo) and shoulder injuries. Draft: Selected in the 6th round of the 2007 MLB Draft out of the University of Alabama, after serving a two-year Mormon mission. Performance: Despite solid defensive skills (two-time minor league Gold Glove winner), he struggled to hit for average in the high minors, posting low OPS figures in 2011-2012 before retiring in 2013. Wikipedia +3 Quote
romad1 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Just now, romad1 said: Google AI says this The primary difference between Cale Iorg and Kevin McGonigle is their success and status within the Detroit Tigers organization, separated by nearly two decades of development. Kevin McGonigle is a top-ranked, high-impact left-handed hitting prospect who made the 2026 Opening Day roster as a rookie, while Cale Iorg was a highly-touted right-handed prospect (circa 2007-2011) known for his glove but who ultimately struggled to hit at higher minor league levels. Wikipedia +3 Here is a breakdown of the differences: Kevin McGonigle (Active) Status: An elite 21-year-old infielder (as of early 2026) who made the Detroit Tigers' Opening Day roster after bypassing Triple-A. Profile: A left-handed hitting infielder known for exceptional bat-to-ball skills, plate discipline, and high-impact contact (163 wRC+ in the minors in the 2020s). Draft: Selected in the Competitive Balance Round-A (37th overall) in the 2023 MLB Draft out of high school. Performance: Consistently hit over .300 in the minor leagues (Single-A to Double-A) and won the Florida State League MVP in 2024. Debut: Made a historic 4-hit MLB debut on March 26, 2026. Wikipedia +1 Cale Iorg (Retired) Status: A former top prospect (ranked 3rd in the organization in 2008) who never reached the MLB level. Profile: A right-handed hitting shortstop known as "glove-first," whose career was hampered by poor hitting performance at the Triple-A level (Toledo) and shoulder injuries. Draft: Selected in the 6th round of the 2007 MLB Draft out of the University of Alabama, after serving a two-year Mormon mission. Performance: Despite solid defensive skills (two-time minor league Gold Glove winner), he struggled to hit for average in the high minors, posting low OPS figures in 2011-2012 before retiring in 2013. Wikipedia +3 Provided for amusement only: not for gambling purposes. 1 Quote
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