04/09/2026 1:40pm EDT Detroit Tigers at Minnesota Twins

[Edman85]

2 hours ago, Tigermojo said:

Would be fun but Wenceel is on the roster.

But Sweeney had a setback, so you can just 60-Day him and make the move.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Or maybe Hinch was only using him in the 9th when he was throwing well or when there was a good match up.  So, maybe he did do slightly better in the 9th, but was it the chicken or the egg?  

Whatever the case, in today's game, our pitching only gave up 3 runs. A team should win a majority of the games when they only give up 3 runs.

[NorthWoods]

1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

I wasn’t watching the game when the collision between Parker and Riley occurred. Wow Parker’s in the hospital overnight? 

It was the hardest hit Greene has had all year.

[SoCalTiger]

1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

I wasn’t watching the game when the collision between Parker and Riley occurred. Wow Parker’s in the hospital overnight? 

Maybe something about flying with a possible head injury given the pressure changes and some other thing I know nothing about nor care just take off on time and don't lose my bag please. 

[chasfh]

14 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Whatever the case, in today's game, our pitching only gave up 3 runs. A team should win a majority of the games when they only give up 3 runs.

And in the game before, our hitting scored six runs. A team should win the majority of their games when they score six runs.

We are definitely on a bad little skein here.

[Tiger337]

The Tigers offense is not great, but they are a lot closer to performing at their expectation as a group than their pitching.  Their pitching was supposed to be a top five staff in baseball and it's been crap, yet all I see is people complaning about the bats.  Wenceel Perez is not going to fix their staff.  

[Tenacious D]

the collapse September makes this start more concerning. Let’s hope it’s a weather thing or just our rough stretch that every team goes through at some point in the season.  It’s just more alarming when it happens at the beginning of the season.

[Tigermojo]

28 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

The Tigers offense is not great, but they are a lot closer to performing at their expectation as a group than their pitching.  Their pitching was supposed to be a top five staff in baseball and it's been crap, yet all I see is people complaning about the bats.  Wenceel Perez is not going to fix their staff.  

The defense hasn't been doing the staff any favors though. Seems like most of the team is struggling in some aspects. 

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

The Tigers offense is not great, but they are a lot closer to performing at their expectation as a group than their pitching.  Their pitching was supposed to be a top five staff in baseball and it's been crap, yet all I see is people complaning about the bats.  Wenceel Perez is not going to fix their staff.  

When Perez came back from injury last year (or 2024?), he seemed to give our offense a boost. Maybe just a coincidence but, whatever, it's a necessary change with the injury to Meadows. Watch us score 10 runs tonight...lol

As for our pitching staff? Its still near top of the league. Boston's staff was supposed to be better and they're also struggling out of the gate. I still like our staff, the SP and the BP. We'll get it together, sooner rather than later...

[Tiger337]

13 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

When Perez came back from injury last year (or 2024?), he seemed to give our offense a boost. Maybe just a coincidence but, whatever, it's a necessary change with the injury to Meadows. Watch us score 10 runs tonight...lol

As for our pitching staff? Its still near top of the league. Boston's staff was supposed to be better and they're also struggling out of the gate. I still like our staff, the SP and the BP. We'll get it together, sooner rather than later...

What statistic are you using to say that the Tigers pitching staff is near the top of the league?  They are right around 20th on the major pitching metrics.  Yes, they should be better, but they are not so far.  They NEED to be near the top of the league and they are instead closer to the bottom.  

Perez has never boosted an offense by himself.  He's a fourth outfielder.  

Edited 2 hours ago by Tiger337

[Sports_Freak]

57 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

What statistic are you using to say that the Tigers pitching staff is near the top of the league?  They are right around 20th on the major pitching metrics.  Yes, they should be better, but they are not so far.  They NEED to be near the top of the league and they are instead closer to the bottom.  

Perez has never boosted an offense by himself.  He's a fourth outfielder.  

I didn't mean in the first couple of weeks in 2026. Use 2025 stats until the sample size is a bit bigger this year. We have some quality arms, both SP and in the BP. Our top 3 SP should be really good this summer, Valdez, Skubal and Mize. Jack and whomever is our #5 SP may be a weakness but just score 10 runs in those games...😅😅

[Tiger337]

1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said:

I didn't mean in the first couple of weeks in 2026. Use 2025 stats until the sample size is a bit bigger this year. We have some quality arms, both SP and in the BP. Our top 3 SP should be really good this summer, Valdez, Skubal and Mize. Jack and whomever is our #5 SP may be a weakness but just score 10 runs in those games...😅😅

Yes, I don't like small sample sizes.  The pitching should get better.    I just see everyone blaming the offense and I think the slow start from the pitching staff and sloppy defense is the bigger problem.  I think the hitting will a little better in terms of power but they aren't going to win the division with offense.  It is going to have to be pitching.  

[Sports_Freak]

3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Yes, I don't like small sample sizes.  The pitching should get better.    I just see everyone blaming the offense and I think the slow start from the pitching staff and sloppy defense is the bigger problem.  I think the hitting will a little better in terms of power but they aren't going to win the division with offense.  It is going to have to be pitching.  

Agreed. And our hitting has lost a few games when we got good pitching but again, small sample size. Our lack of power is somewhat concerning, it reminds me of our start in 2024, when the whole team seemed to start the season in a slump. But I would take another finish like that season, when we came back like gangbusters.

[tiger2022]

The staff is a bit overrated.  Skubal is amazing, but Valdez is slightly overrated.  He's solid, but people make him out like he is a top 10 in the league pitcher, he's not and never has been.  Mize and Flaherty are crap shoots.  They can be good but they can be Paddack-esque too.  And Verlander was a pointless signing.  I assumed he would suck and then they would just stick him on the IL whether he was injured or not.  I assume they saw enough after one start to put that plan into action.

[SeattleMike]

55 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

The staff is a bit overrated.  Skubal is amazing, but Valdez is slightly overrated.  He's solid, but people make him out like he is a top 10 in the league pitcher, he's not and never has been.  Mize and Flaherty are crap shoots.  They can be good but they can be Paddack-esque too.  And Verlander was a pointless signing.  I assumed he would suck and then they would just stick him on the IL whether he was injured or not.  I assume they saw enough after one start to put that plan into action.

Not that Cy Young voting is a perfect metric but Valdez finished in the top 10 in voting for the Cy Young in 2022, 2023, and 2024, plus 11th in 2020 (which doesn't really count). The analytics may not support it, but the general perception league wide is that Valdez has been top 10 pitcher for most of the last 5 years. 

Edited 10 minutes ago by SeattleMike