04/14/2026 6:40pm EDT Kansas City Royals at Detroit Tigers

[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

28 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Are you a Turtle? 

who, me? the only time I have the TV audio on is when Dickerson is subbing for Benetti (edit: or is otherwise not on the radio), and I pay very little visual attention to the TV crew's antics as well (only slightly more when Dan's on TV). I guess it's possible I saw The Fuzz but immediately forgot about the whole thing because I didn't know or care what was going on.

Edited yesterday at 02:30 AM by Crazy Cat Gentleman

[SeattleMike]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

6 K's total in this game. Can't remember last time I saw a game with that few Ks.

Sometime in the 60s?

[oblong]

28 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Are you a Turtle? 

You bet your sweet ass I am. 
 

astronaut Wally Schirra was asked this during a mission  He had to answer thru a private channel 

[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

6 K's total in this game. Can't remember last time I saw a game with that few Ks.

this doesn't answer your question, but the Tigers are part of the record of 1: https://www.facebook.com/retrobaseball33/posts/the-major-league-record-for-fewest-strikeouts-by-both-teams-in-a-doubleheader-is/3938639332859408/

it wasn't even a Tiger who struck out.

[NorthWoods]

1 hour ago, SoCalTiger said:

Interesting outcome. 7th inning with a runner is scoring position Green and Tork zippo. 8th inning Dingler and- Keith ( solid at bat) - and McGonigle all good. The torch has passed. 

After tonight: Keith .831, Dingler .864, McGonigle .908

Vierling 548. Torres 595. Tork 637. Greene 683.

[SoCalTiger]

1 hour ago, NorthWoods said:

After tonight: Keith .831, Dingler .864, McGonigle .908

Vierling 548. Torres 595. Tork 637. Greene 683.

Hope they all meet in the middle of it will be a frustrating season 

[Sports_Freak]

3 hours ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said:

who, me? the only time I have the TV audio on is when Dickerson is subbing for Benetti (edit: or is otherwise not on the radio), and I pay very little visual attention to the TV crew's antics as well (only slightly more when Dan's on TV). I guess it's possible I saw The Fuzz but immediately forgot about the whole thing because I didn't know or care what was going on.

I turn off the audio at times too. When the giggling starts, the sound goes off. 

[IdahoBert]

I have no idea what you people are talking about when you’re talking about the fuzz and turtles. 

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

McGonigle is getting all the attention, but Dingler has been really impressive too going back to last year.  Both are players who have a good chance at being players who play in multiple allstar games.  

He could be this generation’s Bill Freehan.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

6 K's total in this game. Can't remember last time I saw a game with that few Ks.

Games with six or fewer total strikeouts (both teams combined) in 2025: 7 games out of 2,430 total (0.3% of total games).

Compare to 1975: 304 games out of 1,934 total MLB games (15.7%).

Nothing short of a strikeout revolution, directly tied to Chicks Dig The Long Ball.

[chasfh]

8 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:

Hope they all meet in the middle of it will be a frustrating season 

I’d rather they meet at the high end. 😉 

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said:

who, me? the only time I have the TV audio on is when Dickerson is subbing for Benetti (edit: or is otherwise not on the radio), and I pay very little visual attention to the TV crew's antics as well (only slightly more when Dan's on TV). I guess it's possible I saw The Fuzz but immediately forgot about the whole thing because I didn't know or care what was going on.

And, again, the radio audio overlay was way, way ahead of the video, at least in the first inning, something like ten seconds ahead.

[gehringer_2]

12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

And, again, the radio audio overlay was way, way ahead of the video, at least in the first inning, something like ten seconds ahead.

Nothing is real time anymore. Over the air radio is probably closest but even that probably goes through an IP link to the transmitter so you have an opportunity for buffering. Hi-res video is always going to be buffered, possibly multiple times before it gets to you, so synchronization on any two sources is going to be mostly luck.

[chasfh]

13 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Nothing is real time anymore. Over the air radio is probably closest but even that probably goes through an IP link to the transmitter so you have an opportunity for buffering. Hi-res video is always going to be buffered, possibly multiple times before it gets to you, so synchronization on any two sources is going to be mostly luck.

Blame the technology instead of the AV crew if you like, but it hasn't escaped my notice that almost no other team's broadcast has the same problem.

[SoCalTiger]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

I’d rather they meet at the high end. 😉 

Yes Captain Obvious 😀

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

Blame the technology instead of the AV crew if you like, but it hasn't escaped my notice that almost no other team's broadcast has the same problem.

I'll give you an example why I don't think the Tigers could control this even if they wanted to. (and whether they want to is questionable - they want you listening to the broadcast as they are selling audio reads in it)

I have fiber from ATT and DirectTV. If I start watching my cloud 'DVR' of a game say 1/2 hr after the game starts, and slice out dead time to catch up, when I get to 'live' from the DVR link, I'm 10-20 seconds ahead - that  is closer to real time, than if I drop off the DVR link and go pick the game from the linear broadcast guide. This behavior makes no obvious sense, but it is completely reproducible, has been true for multiple seasons, and even more significantly, did NOT change with the Tigers move to MLB production. The 20 seconds or lack thereof - is purely a function of DirectTV's handling of the feed. There is no way the Tigers have anything to do with it. The last leg of network link to you is going to be subject to buffering that is out of control of the originator and the Tigers are sending the game to multiple distributors with different HW systems. I suppose if you buy directly from MLB that's one less step, but you still don't know what your ISP may be doing with MLB feeds.

Edited 22 hours ago by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

46 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Yes Captain Obvious 😀

😉 

[chasfh]

14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I'll give you an example why I don't think the Tigers could control this even if they wanted to. (and whether they want to is questionable - they want you listening to the broadcast as they are selling audio reads in it)

I have fiber from ATT and DirectTV. If I start watching my cloud 'DVR' of a game say 1/2 hr after the game starts, and slice out dead time to catch up, when I get to 'live' from the DVR link, I'm 10-20 seconds ahead - that  is closer to real time, than if I drop off the DVR link and go pick the game from the linear broadcast guide. This behavior makes no obvious sense, but it is completely reproducible, has been true for multiple seasons, and even more significantly, did NOT change with the Tigers move to MLB production. The 20 seconds or lack thereof - is purely a function of DirectTV's handling of the feed. There is no way the Tigers have anything to do with it. The last leg of network link to you is going to be subject to buffering that is out of control of the originator and the Tigers are sending the game to multiple distributors with different HW systems. I suppose if you buy directly from MLB that's one less step, but you still don't know what your ISP may be doing with MLB feeds.

And you believe that based on your experience with a substantially different technology, and despite that almost no other teams experience this same problem, the Tigers, and by extension anyone else, are unable to fix this problem?

I don't have anywhere near your technical expertise, but absent any actual evidence, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

[gehringer_2]

9 minutes ago, chasfh said:

And you believe that based on your experience with a substantially different technology, and despite that almost no other teams experience this same problem, the Tigers, and by extension anyone else, are unable to fix this problem?

I don't have anywhere near your technical expertise, but absent any actual evidence, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Don't understand what you mean by 'different technology.'

So I do imagine there is a difference for people who connect to MLB directly, because that is one less step, but from a marketing importance standpoint to the Tigers, the largest part of the market is  people in the Metro area who are getting it through their TV distributor (mostly DirectTV & Comcast, Youtube, etc) so the situation I experience applies. 

Edited 22 hours ago by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Don't understand what you mean by 'different technology.'

So I do imagine there is a difference for people who connect to MLB directly, because that is one less step, but from a marketing importance standpoint to the Tigers, the largest part of the market is  people in the Metro area who are getting it through their TV distributor (mostly DirectTV & Comcast, Youtube, etc) so the situation I experience applies. 

If you can provide evidence that the ATT/DirecTV you cite is the exact same technology the Tigers use for audio overlay leading to the problems you both experience, and that other teams don't experience this problem because they use different technology than you and the Tigers do, then OK, you have my attention. Until then, agree to disagree.

[Shelton]

I think you guys are talking about different things. Maybe I’m wrong, but G2 is simply referring to the general delay in providing the live game broadcast (tigers channel being shown on directv, comcast, spectrum, mlb, whatever) from the source (real life), relative to the shorter delay for over the air radio. Based on this conversation I’m envisioning G2 describing what happens what you set your radio next to your tv and turn up the radio volume and mute the tv (which I have definitely done in the past).
 

Chas appears to be referring to the feature on mlb.tv services where you can select between listening 97.1 Dan or Benetti via using the audio overlay feature provided by the app. 
 

That said, I have experienced poor video/audio syncing on the mlb app for various teams and sources. Sometimes the delay is the source audio. Sometimes it is the overlay. I don’t think I have ever experienced 10 seconds. I find it to be consistently inconsistent for multiple teams/games. Usually the video broadcast audio is fine (but on rare occasions it has been off). The radio audio overlay seems to be 50/50 whether it will sync. 
 

I don’t believe that the tigers are somehow adjusting the “dials” in the background of their mlb.tv hosted broadcast to make a niche feature less functional so that more people will listen to benetti’s ad reads when watching the game on mlb.tv.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Shelton said:

I think you guys are talking about different things.

Yes, on looking at the thread you are correct.

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don’t believe that the tigers are somehow adjusting the “dials” in the background of their mlb.tv hosted broadcast to make a niche feature less functional so that more people will listen to benetti’s ad reads when watching the game on mlb.tv.

I didn't mean to imply that - the opposite really - more that the Tigers aren't doing anything just because they have little reason to. MLB is running that show and whatever is happening there is probably out the hands of the Tigers, and the Tigers concern level about any error there isn't going to rise that high because it's not that big a piece of the total audience.

If the glitch is unique to the Tigers, and esp if it's at home games,  it's probably a matter of something like a data kludge they had to build in a hurry between HW they had in place and the MLB system. Something that might not be there if they had had more lead time on the transition. The Tigers were very late to the party, the last team that MLB got into place IIRC

Edited 2 hours ago by gehringer_2

[NorthWoods]

6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

i think you are correct.

Well that's no fun at all.

[Shelton]

24 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Yes, on looking at the thread you are correct.

I didn't mean to imply that - the opposite really - more that the Tigers aren't doing anything just because they have little reason to. MLB is running that show and whatever is happening there is probably out the hands of the Tigers, and the Tigers concern level about any error there isn't going to rise that high because it's not that big a piece of the total audience.

If the glitch is unique to the Tigers, and esp if it's at home games,  it's probably a matter of something like a data kludge they had to build in a hurry between HW they had in place and the MLB system. Something that might not be there if they had had more lead time on the transition. The Tigers were very late to the party, the last team that MLB got into place IIRC

I agree with you. I think it’s clear it was Chas saying that the tigers were sabotaging their broadcast tech. I didn’t mean to suggest you were implying that. 

[chasfh]

32 minutes ago, Shelton said:

I agree with you. I think it’s clear it was Chas saying that the tigers were sabotaging their broadcast tech. I didn’t mean to suggest you were implying that. 

Is it clear that I am saying so, or are you inferring that I am saying so?

Edited 1 hour ago by chasfh