04/17/2026 7:15pm EDT Detroit Tigers at Boston Red Sox

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, casimir said:

Yup.  Time to start another winning streak.

Good time to start one. A total mismatch pitching matchup. Skubal against a RH pitcher with a 6+ ERA. Tigers won't get shut out today....at least they shouldn't. 

[GalagaGuy]

9 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

I'm talking about shaky defense at 3rd base. Hinch had several options rather than putting an inexperienced AAA rookie out there. It ended up not mattering much but it very well could have been a disaster. His defense looked very shaky.

I'm talking about you treating Fenway as some magical place that no rookie should ever experience for their first game.  Dude had to have his first game somewhere.  Ain't no damn difference in it being at Fenway, Comerica or anywhere else.  

[Sports_Freak]

29 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I'm talking about you treating Fenway as some magical place that no rookie should ever experience for their first game.  Dude had to have his first game somewhere.  Ain't no damn difference in it being at Fenway, Comerica or anywhere else.  

Yeah, sure. Fenway Park on a Friday Night on national TV is the same as a Wednesday night in Tampa or Cleveland. Sure thing.

[TigerNation]

25 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Yeah, sure. Fenway Park on a Friday Night on national TV is the same as a Wednesday night in Tampa or Cleveland. Sure thing.

It is.

[chasfh]

6 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

When game got to "close, late" esp at the end where anything to the OF wins it and DP could have saved it, I'd have wanted Javy at short and McG at 3rd - mid inning if need be.

In Hinch's defense, Fenway is a place where  the odds a of a game being won by IF defense quality are lower than most places. 

 

At some points during a long, arduous 162-game season, a decent manager worth his salt has to put trust in his players to try to win games at the positions he puts them in. In our case, sometimes that means Lee or Colt at third and Kevin at short; other times, it's Kevin at third and Javy at short; still others, Stinky at third, Javy at short, and Kevin on the bench. It's not practical for a manager to optimize every single game as though it's a win-or-die Game 7. He has to battle-test all his guys, and it's good to do it early in the season both to prepare them for situations during higher-leverage games later in the season, and to see who's able to hack it in the first place.

That said, Hinch did have Javy on the infield at the end there, so, you did get your wish on this, kind of.

[gehringer_2]

10 minutes ago, chasfh said:

That said, Hinch did have Javy on the infield at the end there, so, you did get your wish on this, kind of.

DId he? I didn't have video and it looks like the Box at MLB never updated to show it.

[chasfh]

Just now, gehringer_2 said:

DId he? I didn't have video and it looks like the Box at MLB never updated to show it.

He brought Javy in to make a five-man outfield when it was man on third with one out and Mayer up, with Javy positioned on the third-base side of second. Hinch kept Javy in the infield after Vest walked Mayer and positioned him on the first-base side of second for Yoshida.

[oblong]

2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Yeah, sure. Fenway Park on a Friday Night on national TV is the same as a Wednesday night in Tampa or Cleveland. Sure thing.

Where the game is broadcast is irrelevant to their playing. The only consideration I’d give on a delay would be his travel situation 

[Sports_Freak]

8 minutes ago, oblong said:

Where the game is broadcast is irrelevant to their playing. The only consideration I’d give on a delay would be his travel situation 

And he wouldn't be nervous in his ML debut. Every game is the same, it's all just a baseball game.

[Tiger337]

The park can affect pitching and hitting and even left field defense (because of the wall).  It is not relevant to third base defense though.  

[chasfh]

34 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

And he wouldn't be nervous in his ML debut. Every game is the same, it's all just a baseball game.

By Jove, I think he’s got it! 😃

[Tiger337]

34 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

And he wouldn't be nervous in his ML debut. Every game is the same, it's all just a baseball game.

McGonigle wasn't.  

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

He brought Javy in to make a five-man outfield when it was man on third with one out and Mayer up, with Javy positioned on the third-base side of second. Hinch kept Javy in the infield after Vest walked Mayer and positioned him on the first-base side of second for Yoshida.

excellent move even if they did lose

[oblong]

52 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

And he wouldn't be nervous in his ML debut. Every game is the same, it's all just a baseball game.

I’m glad they didn’t have the attitude for Kevin McGonigle. 

[Sports_Freak]

14 minutes ago, oblong said:

I’m glad they didn’t have the attitude for Kevin McGonigle. 

Playing in front of 8000 people in Toledo is much different than playing in your ML debut in historic Fenway Park in front of 35,000 fans. That really can't be disputed.

[oblong]

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

Playing in front of 8000 people in Toledo is much different than playing in your ML debut in historic Fenway Park in front of 35,000 fans. That really can't be disputed.

McGonigle’s first ML game was in San Diego in front of 45,000 fans. He had 4 hits. 

[Sports_Freak]

3 minutes ago, oblong said:

McGonigle’s first ML game was in San Diego in front of 45,000 fans. He had 4 hits. 

He isnt a typical rookie. Its fine, we just dont agree that playing in front of 6000 people in Toledo is the same as playing in front of 35,000 people at Fenway Park. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one. 😆

[Tiger337]

19 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

He isnt a typical rookie. Its fine, we just dont agree that playing in front of 6000 people in Toledo is the same as playing in front of 35,000 people at Fenway Park. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one. 😆

I remember your opinion of McGonigle was not very good in Spring training.  You didn't think he was ready.