06/11/2026 1:10p EDT Minnesota Twins at Detroit Tigers

[Sports_Freak]

Remember that time the Tigers hit 6 home runs in a game and lost? Yeah, me neither.

[lordstanley]

7-2 in June. Three straight series wins. +30 run differential in June. 

[IdahoBert]

7 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

I tend to think those are related.  I'd be very curious to see the Tigers' record since the start of 2024 when Carpenter is on the DL and when he is healthy.  He makes a bigger difference in the lineup than he gets credit for IMO, even more than his numbers indicate.

Since the start of the 2024 season, the Detroit Tigers are 45-68 (.398) when Kerry Carpenter is on the Injured List (IL), compared to a far superior 156-123 (.559) when he is healthy and available

[Sports_Freak]

Baseball is so much more fun when my favorite team wins. 

[IdahoBert]

By the way, that was AI mode on my iPhone, but it’s probably true and it cited mlb.com as its source

[Tigermojo]

[4hzglory]

2 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Since the start of the 2024 season, the Detroit Tigers are 45-68 (.398) when Kerry Carpenter is on the Injured List (IL), compared to a far superior 156-123 (.559) when he is healthy and available

Thanks!

[4hzglory]

1 minute ago, IdahoBert said:

By the way, that was AI mode on my iPhone, but it’s probably true and it cited mlb.com as its source

It definitely confirms my gut feeling.  A 90 win team with a healthy Carpenter and a 65 win team with him out.

[papalawrence]

4 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Since the start of the 2024 season, the Detroit Tigers are 45-68 (.398) when Kerry Carpenter is on the Injured List (IL), compared to a far superior 156-123 (.559) when he is healthy and available

I think there is a similar stat for Parker Meadows

[Sports_Freak]

5 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

By the way, that was AI mode on my iPhone, but it’s probably true and it cited mlb.com as its source

And here is an amazing stat AI told me;

[IdahoBert]

Yeah, that’s quite interesting that the Tigers average 91 wins over 162 game season when Carpenter’s in the lineup. I suppose there’s all sorts of if but what however variables you could consider, but if you consider this one variable, the results are pretty outstanding. 

[IdahoBert]

6 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

And here is an amazing stat AI told me;

I believe I remember that August 8, 2024 game. The Tigers had a gigantic lead against some knuckleballer for the Red Sox and blew the lead. 

[IdahoBert]

10 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

I think there is a similar stat for Parker Meadows

The Detroit Tigers are 74-56 since the start of 2024 when outfielder Parker Meadows is active and healthy on the roster, compared to 127-132 when he is sidelined on the injured list (IL) or optioned to the minor leagues. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The drastic difference in winning percentages (.569 with Meadows vs. .490 without him) underscores how vital his presence has been to the lineup, particularly his standout defense in center field and a late-2024 surge that helped guide Detroit to a historic postseason run.

[Sports_Freak]

8 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

I believe I remember that August 8, 2024 game. The Tigers had a gigantic lead against some knuckleballer for the Red Sox and blew the lead. 

Tim Wakefield. I was just looking at the boxscore and I can only find 7 home runs.

Edit; another wrong AI answer. The Tigers only hit 7 home runs in the Boston game loss.

Edited 3 hours ago by Sports_Freak

[4hzglory]

2 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

 

The Detroit Tigers are 74-56 since the start of 2024 when outfielder Parker Meadows is active and healthy on the roster, compared to 127-132 when he is sidelined on the injured list (IL) or optioned to the minor leagues. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The drastic difference in winning percentages (.569 with Meadows vs. .490 without him) underscores how vital his presence has been to the lineup, particularly his standout defense in center field and a late-2024 surge that helped guide Detroit to a historic postseason run.

So not near as extreme of a low as Carpenter.  92 wins when he is healthy, but still 79 wins when injured.  So a 13 win difference compared to 25-26 for Carpenter.

Edited 3 hours ago by 4hzglory

[IdahoBert]

The fact that you can pick two players out and designate their absence and come up with similar results makes me wonder if choosing such variables is really an accurate way of approaching these things.

[Tigermojo]

I wouldn't mind seeing more Rogers catching and Dingler DH. We don't lose anything defensively and maybe gain even more Dingler offense. 

[Sports_Freak]

6 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

The fact that you can pick two players out and designate their absence and come up with similar results makes me wonder if choosing such variables is really an accurate way of approaching these things.

Uhhhh....so what the Tigers record what both are out? Must be pretty dismal.

[chasfh]

The Tigers are 2-5 against the Twins so far this season. The Tigers have also outscored the Twins 37-32 so far this season.

[Sports_Freak]

5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

The Tigers are 2-5 against the Twins so far this season. The Tigers have also outscored the Twins 37-32 so far this season.

The Twins really are a bad team. Look at their run differential;

[IdahoBert]

11 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Uhhhh....so what the Tigers record what both are out? Must be pretty dismal.

I’m afraid to look that up… 

[4hzglory]

46 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

The fact that you can pick two players out and designate their absence and come up with similar results makes me wonder if choosing such variables is really an accurate way of approaching these things.

I don't think those were that similar.  A 13 win difference for Meadows compared to a 26 win difference for Carp is pretty significant.  They are still close to a .500 team without Meadows.  They are close to a 100 loss team without Carp.

 

They are 5 games under .500 in the 259 games Meadows has been out and 23 games under .500 in the 113 games Carpenter has been out.  

Edited 2 hours ago by 4hzglory

[gehringer_2]

16 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

I don't think those were that similar.  A 13 win difference for Meadows compared to a 26 win difference for Carp is pretty significant.  They are still close to a .500 team without Meadows.  They are close to a 100 loss team without Carp.

 

They are 5 games under .500 in the 259 games Meadows has been out and 23 games under .500 in the 113 games Carpenter has been out.  

but what are the co-correlates? Who else was in/out of the line-up at the same time as Carpenter, what teams were we playing ( over/under 500), etc. It's an interesting set of co-incidences, but it runs into a wall of logical reality when you realize that it is effect arguing Carpenter is a 30 WAR player - and somehow Ohtani got his money! 😉

[IdahoBert]

3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

but what are the co-correlates? Who else was in/out of the line-up at the same time as Carpenter, what teams were we playing ( over/under 500), etc. It's an interesting set of co-incidences, but it runs into a wall of logical reality when you realize that it is effect arguing Carpenter is a 30 WAR player - and somehow Ohtani got his money! 😉

Yeah, this stuff is way over my pay grade…

[4hzglory]

8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

but what are the co-correlates? Who else was in/out of the line-up at the same time as Carpenter, what teams were we playing ( over/under 500), etc. It's an interesting set of co-incidences, but it runs into a wall of logical reality when you realize that it is effect arguing Carpenter is a 30 WAR player - and somehow Ohtani got his money! 😉

Yes you do have to look at it, but the larger sample of 2.4 years helps correlate it.  This year Carp and Torres went out and came back about the same time.  That was the only difference between the team from May to June and our offense got back to where it was when they were healthy in March/April.