Tigeraholic1 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Edman85 said: Michigan's spike isn't anywhere near Florida's spike. Just like Florida, Michigan has dropped all mask mandates, gathering restrictions, etc. Edited November 17, 2021 by Tigeraholic1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I missed the part where Whitmer blows off vaccinations, denied the right to local jurisdictions to enforce mask mandates, and also made a point to say vaccination requirements were wrong... other than that you are correct I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 just like Michigan tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Archie said: Liberals were calling for DeSantis head because of the spike in Florida. I've heard nothing about Whitmer during Michigan's spike. have you tried looking? I saw an article just yesterday calling for Big Gretch circa 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I am no longer a Michigan resident but does the Govenor have the ability to enforce any kind of mask mandate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 58 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I am no longer a Michigan resident but does the Govenor have the ability to enforce any kind of mask mandate? No... the GOP legislators took that away from her. Then whined she's not doing anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, oblong said: No... the GOP legislators took that away from her. Then whined she's not doing anything. Thanks, I thought so. I think she has done a good job considering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Her Health Director does have the power to do so however, and thus far have not. Really I don't think they have in 2021 at all. There have been some departures from the health department that have seemed weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Personally I think it's super fair to ask why the health department hasn't done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, pfife said: Personally I think it's super fair to ask why the health department hasn't done it. Right now I guess it's bad enough everywhere, but the core of the early dissatisfaction with the state was that conditions in the counties across the state were wildly different - I guess meaning the county health depts should be taking the lead. Do MI county depts of health have that kind of authority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, pfife said: Personally I think it's super fair to ask why the health department hasn't done it. Idk, maybe the health director has been hearing the same news and following the same people you and Oblong followed for the last year and truly believes the GOP has prevented any of those actions from happening/enacted by the Whitmer admin? Edited November 18, 2021 by ewsieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, ewsieg said: Idk, maybe the health director has been hearing the same news and following the same people you and Oblong followed for the last year and truly believes the GOP has prevented any of those actions from happening/enacted by the Whitmer admin? except i just said the opposite hoss, try to keep up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) Oh wait this is one of those many instances where you make up out of thin air what a poster said or did, then based on that conjecture you ascribed to them, you paint them as a hypocrite. Seen you do it dozens of times. No sale. Edited November 18, 2021 by pfife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 57 minutes ago, pfife said: Oh wait this is one of those many instances where you make up out of thin air what a poster said or did, then based on that conjecture you ascribed to them, you paint them as a hypocrite. Seen you do it dozens of times. No sale. You posted for months that nothing could be done because of the evil GOP. I pointed out what the health director could have done, or what Whitmer could have forced her to do since this time last year, but nope, it was always that the GOP stripped away all powers. I’m glad you’re realizing it, but don’t pretend you weren’t on the wrong side for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Right now I guess it's bad enough everywhere, but the core of the early dissatisfaction with the state was that conditions in the counties across the state were wildly different - I guess meaning the county health depts should be taking the lead. Do MI county depts of health have that kind of authority? I’m not sure if they have all powers that the state health department has and I’m sure not the powers an EO from Whitmer would have, but they do have powers. Pretty sure they can determine mask mandate in schools for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 6 hours ago, ewsieg said: You posted for months that nothing could be done because of the evil GOP. I pointed out what the health director could have done, or what Whitmer could have forced her to do since this time last year, but nope, it was always that the GOP stripped away all powers. I’m glad you’re realizing it, but don’t pretend you weren’t on the wrong side for a year. Liar. I didn't argue that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I argued for months about how you lied about EO 23. And I didn't refer to "people I follow" like you did - I posted the fucking EO itself. Blow it out your damn ass you liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 what next hoss, you gonna say we had lunch in Chicago and I didn't fight you then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, pfife said: what next hoss, you gonna say we had lunch in Chicago and I didn't fight you then? No idea what you’re talking about, movie reference? But man, you’re testy when you get caught lying. What I do know is anytime I said Whitmer has the power, you argued semantics that she specifically couldn’t do it, even when I pointed out she could still issue EO’s, just not one that stayed in effect forever, you said that was not possible. Most of this forum will back you, but they remember, lying about it isn’t really scoring any points for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 hours ago, pfife said: I argued for months about how you lied about EO 23. And I didn't refer to "people I follow" like you did - I posted the fucking EO itself. Blow it out your damn ass you liar. And note, I argued what health department did as a result of the EO, but since it wasn’t explicitly in the EO, I must have been a liar. Funny how you take such a literal view of law when it suits you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) Chief we saw last week that you can't even keep track of what YOU posted. I was taught when I was younger that it's hard to keep lotsa lies coherent and straight and your posts are evidence of it. Edited November 18, 2021 by pfife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) what's really tough for your lies is that I literally posted that the health director did have the power, and here you are acting like I lied about that. Even better, you're here acting like you "caught me in a lie". Get a life bro Edited November 18, 2021 by pfife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ewsieg Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 4 hours ago, pfife said: what's really tough for your lies is that I literally posted that the health director did have the power, and here you are acting like I lied about that. Even better, you're here acting like you "caught me in a lie". Get a life bro Solid maneuver going with the pfife on motownforums said x and ignoring what pfife on motownsports touted for the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: GOP business deregulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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