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Its an unfortunate situation when you look at his career progression and stat lines through 2019. Then COVID hit, he didn't pitch in 2020. His post 2020 pales in comparison to his pre 2020. Now, there is the high competition that he's faced (pre was only as high as AA, post has been AAA/MLB). That's certainly a factor. But he hasn't been able to gain more starts/innings during a season since 2019. And maybe he was called up to Detroit well before he was ready to begin with.

Well, that's actually part of the reason why an organization might trade for him. Another organization might see something that the Tigers/Manning haven't been able to adjust that they feel might unlock something and get more value out of Manning. I always thought Gregory Soto was overrated because of his control issues, his poor BB9. I was quite pleased to see him traded. But somehow or another, his track record of poor BB9 was cut significantly. How did that happen? Its only one season, is it sustainable? Why was this an issue under the Tiger pitching staff (which I think is reasonably considered an asset), but Philly was able to polish Soto up? I agree with you, though, other organizations see what we can see watching games, looking over baseball reference, baseball savant, fangraphs, etc, etc. So they're going to see those data points, sure. But what do they see that we don't see?

What did Panera do to deserve this?

I was hoping to trade down and get Mobley plus other assets. It wasn’t so much about Cunningham. It was more about opportunity to get better value with a pick at 3 & stuff than just a pick at 1. And who knows, it may turn out that Cunningham at 1 ends up the correct choice. Sure would be nice to see Cunningham healthy for a season.

Trade him for Soto!

Looks like MTS morphed over to MTF around the time of the draft. It'd be fun to pull that thread back up.

Failed vote? What vote? There was no vote taken.

Tommy John and Dr. Frank Jobe's estate should look into retroactive residuals.

I don't know. The peripherals suggest his 2023 was lucky. It'd be nice to see it, but I don't know. I think his 2023 injuries were flukey. Both were from batted balls, were they not? They cost him innings, sure, but don't think they were necessarily directly related to pitching motion or something like that.

Skubal, Mize, and Manning in the Detroit rotation if healthy. Olsen seems likely to be in there as well. And then there will be a FA SP to join them. I think at this point Faedo and Briekse are RPs that can throw multiple innings if needed. Same for Alexander if he returns. Are there any other SP/SP types on the 40 to consider? Some have mentioned Holton as a possible rotation option, but I think he remains a RP. Gipson-Long, Flores, Madden, Hurter, and Jobe are SPs in the minors. Maybe that could be enough minor league depth? I don't know, it seems like another arm or two in Toledo with maybe Jobe starting in Erie?

Vuvuzela vendors outside the Philly ballpark just might have the retirement plan in front of them.

Atlanta had 10 pitchers start at least 5 games this season. Texas and Philadelphia had 8. We are well rehearsed with what Detroit went through. MLB teams simply need that SP depth in AAA. That's just where we are at with the game now. Hurter just turned 25 and has 28 starts in AA. If he's still in the organization, he's probably looking at AAA to begin 2024. At 25 already, the clock is probably ticking. Flores is due to be added to the 40 and he has 37 starts in AA. There may have been some disappointment with him last season, but I'd have to think he'll also be in Toledo at some point next season. Ideally, Harris acquires enough SP where Gipson-Long is in Toledo to start the season. This would assume Mize is healthy enough to start in Detroit, they have Manning in the rotation and/or replaced him with a viable SP, and Olson is at the end of the Detroit rotation. They're probably going to need to acquire another project/prospect to stash in AA/AAA as well. I have no idea what becomes of Turnbull.

I just avoid the pre and post game shows. But along the lines of the broadcasts, is it just me or does the return from commercial to live action seem to be much tighter now than before? There used to be, I don't know, 20 or 30 seconds of live shot and conversation filler from the broadcast team before the first pitch of the half inning. It seems to me like a lot of returns right into the first pitch this postseason.

Well, I think those priorities are backwards, but that’s just my opinion.

Oh, geez, it is a 7 game binge, not 6. I forgot the first round was a series, not just a game.

9/9 and 116. I don’t think I recall a grid where all 6 franchises are from among the original 16.

Y’all saw that playoff stat that was flashed about Bochy? His teams have won 13 series in which they’ve won game one. They ain’t been eliminated in any series after winning game one. We can debate and opine and question and theorize all we want about which teams are better than the other and by how much and what that should mean. But can’t no one deny the heater that Texas is on. A six game winning streak is pretty impressive in the regular season. But in the playoffs? Gadzooks.

Thanks.

Based on my own research, I can concur.

I could be wrong, but he seems to be on the older side of a career timeline. I don’t know if he was a late bloomer, or made his professional debut on the older side, or both.

This is probably true. It’s probably one of those uncomfortable situations where the two sides need each other in order for both sides to find a best case mutuality beneficial outcome. In other words, Turnbull is healthy, the Tigers pitch him, he posts stats, and a trade is made after his value is increased. But both sides are going to have to grit teeth, tolerate the other, and just push aside whatever acrimony exists to get there.

I don’t understand scheduling back to back games in the preseason. Yet, that’s what the Pistons have for it’s final two games.

Maybe he gets traded for another player in a comparable situation? I don’t know who that would be nor if there is a comparison to begin with. Maybe he is used as a throw in for a bat? It seems like they should add a proven bat with some sort of multi season control at either 2B or 3B. Or maybe even SS and push Baez to 2B, although that seems tough to see happening. I know there’s a lot of thought that Keith and Jung can be assigned to 2B / 3B one way or another and it’ll be fine going forward. While there’s talk about pitching being a strength, maybe LHH hitting IFs with questionable defensive assignments are a surplus to deal from? Maybe it makes sense to move one for a more defensive IF without punting on offense?

The more a league is broken down into smaller subunits, the higher the chances are for a poor team to “win” a division. 4 team divisions would inevitably lead to a team in the playoffs with a losing record. Some losing record team would win the division. And then MLB would further the mockery by seeding that team 4th rather than last in the bracket. There have been NFL teams that win a division at 7-9 and bump better records from the playoffs. Heck, the Texas Rangers were leading the AL West at 52-62 when MLB shut down for the strike. The only AL teams with records worse than them were all from the AL West. The Baltimore Orioles were 63-49, but would have been bumped from the playoffs for Texas.

Hold on, is this a prediction or a guess? I would hate to get you in a tizzy by misquoting you.