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The line did well, the Steelers have a good d-line. The led the NFL in sacks last year. Here they are mashing their run blocks only for Hockenson to screw it up.

If they keep Kennedy, along with Raymond and St. Brown, that will give them 3 small slotty types. I think it will be Cephus and Benson that they keep. Plus whoever the last one is to make it will be cut when Williams is activated.

if the Tigers bring in some young-ish forward thinking GM, that person will take one look at our roster and system and conclude that they cannot reasonably compete next year. And that they need some impact hitting prospects in the minors. Guys like Perez, Meadows, DIngler, etc. are nice but they have lower ceilings. They will have to trade some pitching to bring in position players that can hit and play defense. I don't see any way around rebuilding some more and avoiding free agency for a year or two while we see if our young pitching can stay healthy and if we have any young position guys who can hit.

The Athletic basically said the same things as POD, the offense started slow and finished up making some plays. They said the secondary was not good though.

That is either good news on Keith, or bad news on Jobe.

The starters played 8 snaps, both starting LB'ers didn't play at all, and it was the first game in the new defense. They are going to be bad, but they will be better than what we saw Friday night. I think they need to add a big body at DT to replace Penisini. A few individuals on this defense they are counting on worry me though. Barnes still looks like Jarrod Davis 2.0. Missing tackles, overrunning plays and failing to recognize what is going on until it is too late. Brockers is not helping at all. I do not believe i have seen him make a play since he got here. Levi is having back problems, again. That is a bad sign since that is what was supposedly what held him back last year.

If the Tigers are going to roll out a 70 or less win team next year, which it looks like they will, having Miggy on the team is less of an issue. I wouldn't keep him, but I can see the team wanting to sell tickets and if he is blocking at bats from Haase or Harold Castro what does it matter.

For the first few years he was playing the long term game. In that time he traded Verlander, JD, Kinsler, Upton, Wilson, Greene, Castellanos, and Avila the Jr. Those trades didn't net one first division player. And aside from his top five picks and Skubal, his drafts and international signings didn't add anything either. He ran out of time and couldn't keep rebuilding so he tried to win with what he had. It's why he should have been fired several years ago.

Trading Verlander and JD was the correct move. The team needed more young talent and those guys were probably not going to want to resign here anyways. Not netting a single major league player in those deals is the problem. Milwaukee just traded Hader before he hit free agency and got a decent package of players back. The next GM we get in here will have to have a vision for how he intends to manage the payroll and keep us competitive, avoiding long term droughts like we are in now. Unless Ilitch is going to green light a top 5 payroll again you can't sit passively by like Al was doing. Getting nothing for Fulmer when he could have brought in a couple of top prospects was probably his worst mistake IMO. Player development of course is at the top of the list for managing payroll.

He was bad for 10 years and then got promoted.

I thought he was done when he started out poorly in 2020. He was constantly injured and couldn't be played in the field anymore. I thought cutting him at that point was the right move. Since the rebuild stalled keeping hasn't really mattered. And he has stayed more healthy than i figured he would since then.

I voted R just to vote for Meijer yesterday. First time i have done that, but the entire Dem ballot was unopposed.

Keith Law made a comment in his chat the other day that if you laid all of the drafts in front of him he could tell which teams are drafting using video and analytics and which teams actually have scouts out looking at players. I suspect that the Tigers are one of the teams that do not have many scouts, and probably lag behind in player development staff personnel as well. Not sure how to prove that.

He was 19 when we acquired him. That was one of the criticisms of that deal, that the centerpiece was a 19 year old pitcher that had never thrown more that 86 innings in a season. Lots of risk there. Similar risk they took on drafting Jobe.

Also, he threw 50 pitches in one day and didn't go on the DL 24 hours later. Maybe they should consider making him a reliever.

They already announced that Melonfonwu will be moved to safety. And Harris will be moved to corner. I'm not counting on either of them this year. They have a ton of raw talent on defense, not sure how many of them are football players at this point though.

If they move Skubal or a reliever it will be for major league ready position players. They are not doing a rebuild again. They are fielding an historically awful lineup right now with about 4-5 spots where they need help. And they don't have any top prospects knocking on the door. And they can't paper over the problems given how many positions need help. They realize they can't roll a very similar lineup out there next year and expect to compete. There should be a bunch of guys they counted on this year that don't return. Their core competency right now is developing pitching so it makes sense to use that to acquire a few position players.

He's a public figure with an unexplained, lengthy absence. Either party could issue a statement asking for patience while he works through a family issue or something, but nothing yet. That fact the one hasn't been issued is causing all the speculation.

The urgency Holmes will feel to find his next QB will depend on how Goff plays this year. If Goff is a top ten QB they can fill other holes and worry about the QB position when an opportunity presents itself. They are just as likely to target a veteran as they are to trade up in the draft.

I see Goff reaching a level this year where you don't have to replace him, but you'd like a better QB. They can win but the rest of the team needs to be very good. And they are not quite there yet, but close. So they can go the San Francisco route and trade for one of the top QB's in 23 draft and keep Goff around until the new QB is ready. If they do this they can restructure Goff's contract as well. Or they can trade for veteran and dump Goff. Both are scenarios are a matter of opportunity, it will just depend on if they like a guy and can work out a deal.

Here is an article from the Athletic discussing the Tigers potential trade candidates. For Soto they list the Dodgers as the most likely trade partner because they can offer top 50ish prospects Busch, Pages or Vargas. And Detroit would likely not settle for something less than that. They aren't sure if the Dodgers would do that for those without subscriptions but that is what Detroit would ask for hypothetically. They suggest Fulmer as more likely to be traded for a lesser return. https://theathletic.com/3388230/2022/06/29/tigers-trade-deadline/

Does this mean you don't think he would bring back that good of a prospect? Ronny Mauricio? Mathew Liberatore? Someone like that.

I think Soto could land a top 50 prospect, maybe more. Fulmer would bring back more of a lottery ticket, and between Avila picking that prospect and our player development people it is unlikely to pay off. Having said that Lange was a lottery ticket at one time, and Fulmer will be a free agent so what do you have to lose.

Fangraphs compared him to Micky Tettleton, due to the way he holds the bat almost parallel to the ground in his setup.

It's not a win overall, but at this point if the contract was voided at this point it would be the best outcome for the Tigers. Sooner or later I would think they will be able to legally void the deal if he has decided to not show up. Unless there is an underlying reason he can prove that is preventing him from honoring his contract. Didn't Uwe Krupps situation go on for years while he was "injured"? The Tigers need to move on building a team and they could argue not knowing what Eduardo intends to do is preventing them knowing how much debt they have.