1984Echoes

Stafford was with the Lions with 12 years where they were nothing much more than stumblebums. He's nearing the end of his career (most likely); and the Lions were just starting ANOTHER rebuild from scratch. Can you see the reasoning in asking for a trade? Goff has recovered perceptions of him from leaving the Rams with a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths, whether that was his fault or not. This Lions team looks like it's on the upswing and could become a dangerous playoff/ SB contender for the next 5-ish years +/-, and Goff is a huge part of that. Regardless of whatever other QB moves they make BEHIND him. Quit telling us what YOU would do. Goff is looking at making a run to the playoffs with the Lions. And trusts Holmes/ Campbell implicitly (I don't know that, but I believe he has intimated that and they've been heavily pro-Goff-Positive in ALL of their public communications about him...). What would HE do, regardless of how they BACKFILL the backup QB spot(s)?

The best way for him to prove he deserves a long-term contract, from anyone... Is to prove it, with the Lions, in 2023.

If Carolina wants to offer (3) 1sts starting in 2024, plus a 2024 2nd/ 3rd/ and 4th round picks for Goff... Hmmm....

In other words: You're advocating for Goff to be a little bitch. I don't think he acts the way you want him to act. But that's just me...

Why? If it's Anthony Richardson (I hope the Lions do NOT draft him...): He won't be ready to start for at least two years... And Goff is the starter for the next two years... So I see ZERO issue here...

I still have Wilson/ Murphy ahead of the CB's... If they talk the Panthers into a pick swap, I would say yes at #9. If they remain at #6... I don't know what the Lions are thinking so... 50/50 they take one of Wilson/ Murphy whichever one falls OR they go after their top-ranked CB...? Just a guess.

Ditto.

Perfect.

Not to throw gunpowder onto the grill... But if we drafted Scoot... Wouldn't we run into the same situation? How many balls would Cade-Scoot-Ivey need? Does Ivey or Cade get pushed to the bench? Killian should stay there and he could direct the bench with 1 ball = happy camper... But what if our best starting alignment is Scoot/PG-Ivey/SG-Cade/SF? Just asking for a friend...

Interesting... Let's see what he can do at Grand Rapids...

They could still do both. Hooker would learn/ rehab for a year. A good veteran backup QB would be a smart thing to do. As well as drafting Hooker, IMO.

PS: So your answer is... Luck? ... in avoiding the injury bug...? Great response.

If Holmes drafts Hooker... I guess you will be proven otherwise.

It's called going to the Super Bowl. You don't go to the Super Bowl if you have NOTHING behind your starting QB and he gets nicked for a few weeks or in the playoffs. It's the same reason we need to draft at least a backup RB behind Williams/ Swift... Those guys are AWESOME!!! "Why do we need a backup RB behind those two awesome guys?" "Can you guarantee that Swift will be healthy for the playoffs next year?" "No." That's why.

Don't give a shit. Height of his prime athletic years, and good for another 5-6 years or so. PERFECT as a backup to Goff. Couldn't get any better than that. Which is why I want the Panthers to panic and give us extra 2nds and 3rds... And we can use one of them (or ours) on Hooker.

That allows them to avoid responsibility since they are Republicans, not a Republic. I understand what you are saying/ getting at... they do seem to want to live in a banana republic instead of a democracy... But for full culpability... it has to be: Banana Republican Party

I want Hendon Hooker in the 2nd round.

PS: The Seahawks are also talking heavily about a QB with their #5 pick. A rare opportunity for them as they haven't picked top 10 in around 10 years or so (I didn't verify... just reading the article...). Everyone is assuming they'll select defense. But if they grab, say Anthony Richardson as the perfect guy to sit behind Geno Smith for two years learning, before he takes over the helm... That bodes particularly well for the Lions. EITHER a top D'lineman drops to us in Anderson or Carter, as well as Murphy and/or Wilson... and Holmes can pick whoever he wants... OR: In a desperate move to grab the last 1st-round/ franchise-level QB on the board (and leapfrog the Raiders looking to do the same), the Panthers trade us the #9, this year's 2nd and 3rd, and next year's 2nd round picks... 😁😁😁

Ewww. No. Guy Pearce. I prefer Dark Angel Biden though. And the Banana Republican Party. Thank you very much.

PS: He looks like Guy Pearce with a blond mullet...

Is that... Dark Angel Biden? In Aviators...?

That's my new name for the Pubs... In every conversation, text, email, post, etc... I will refer to them as the: Banana Republican Party. Or the BRP (burp). It makes sense.

Yes.

No, the expectations are still there... It's just still a little early for them yet... I believe I'm on record previously stating that I wanted them to both buy and sell at the deadline. I've posted that in here the past three weeks at least. I still think that, and I still like having an outside shot at trying to get into the playoffs, but... I don't see a reason to lose Bertuzzi for absolutely nothing. If we don't come to an agreement with him on an extension, he needs to be traded. I hate to say the same thing about Larkin... I don't want to trade him... but what if it comes to us losing him for nothing? Are we happy with that? And the guys I was interested in trading for - Horvat, Meier, or Chychrun - have already been traded or it no longer makes sense to trade for who is remaining. Also, I was interested in a Leddy trade like last year, in which SY finds an unused kid or two in a trade (like Walman) that, given some ice time, could blossom. I even had my eyes on two Maple Leafs that exactly met that definition... I proposed trading for in another forum: Connor Timmins (RH'd D'man to try and balance out our pairings...) and Joseph Woll, a 6' 3" goalie splitting time between AHL & NHL this year saving at a .930 rate. I think they should try to build at the same time that they might be trading away... If SY is able to come up with the right trade... Otherwise... If there is anyone that a team has an interest in, that is not a part of our future... I do not mind moving on from that player. At all. I don't see why anyone would. If they are a UFA and not a key part of our future that is.

They may have already missed the boat on that... All the big names and big trades for huge amounts of assets have already occurred. After these past two games, one not different than the other... Yzerman needs to SELL, SELL, SELL !!! Although, like I said... I think the loudest shouting has already taken place so SY may end up only with table scrap trades at this point, I'm thinking.