1984Echoes

Too bad you're not in 'Murica where your first $700K could go to gold chains, a pickup truck, a gilded bible collection and an AR-15/ Glock/ body armor/ nuclear fallout shelter/ military weapons collection. So... "deprived" ... north of the border.

That's 6 weeks for the Lions instead of 7, like most everyone else (look at the star next to LV, Hou, and Detroit). That's also about 12 gameday players lost per week for the Lions, so they would have a roughly 81.6 missed player-games if they had 7 games played. Las Vegas and Houston would also move up on the same basis (6 games instead of 7)... Putting the Lions at about 9th on a pro-rata basis. With 81.6 versus the leaders 88.2. Not good.

WTF? Seriously?

I believe Putin is going to use a nuclear weapon, or several, in Ukraine. It has come to that, and he is going to do it. He could care less what anyone thinks about it or how much damage he inflicts in a nuclear attack against Ukraine. He wants to wipe them off the face of the map. And if he can't actually do it, it doesn't matter. He is going to use nuclear weapons against them and inflict as much pain, suffering, nuclear damage and fallout as he can get away with.

I don't think it's an issue of them playing together... I think it's an issue of HOW they are playing together. With Cade as the primary, the offense is slow and Cade is trying to get everyone involved. If Ivey is the primary, he's flashing/ driving/ breaking down the defense. If he has no lane for a shot, or is doubled... he should swing it out... NOW... Cade is receiving the ball with a broken down defense and the ability to use all his skills/ vision/ passing, to get a shot for himself or for someone else. As a secondary, his job is not to get everyone involved, it's to get the basketball into the net. Himself, or someone more open. And again, with a broken-down defense or a moving defense trying to catch up to ball movement after Ivey has drove-and-dished... I think gives Cade a great advantage initiating any offense in that situation. But that's just me.

Which is why I had posted earlier that I want Duren & Livers starting over Stew & Bey. It doesn't matter that Bey might be the better player. Livers does what the team needs of him. Exactly as you posted. Also... I think Livers will be the better 3-point shooter, again, exactly what we need. In college. Right now. And for his career. Better spot-up shooter than Bey. Stew & Bey coming off the bench, I think, would be great BTW...

I think boogie is correct that Bey keeps trying - really hard - to be more than what he is.

He was NOT just slow to get up. He shook his head at least a couple of times. I watched him do it. THAT's why the ref sent him to the sidelines. This is on the Doc's, NOT on the Ref.

Just imagine adding Victor Wembanyama to this team. It pushes Duren to PF, Stew to the bench. Pick your SF from a large cast... Ivey becomes primary ball-handler at PG and Cade secondary at SG. I think this team becomes extremely dangerous at both ends of the court. Stew and pick 3 of 4: Bagley/ Bey/ Livers/ Burks or Bojan or whoever fills out the roster (minus one of those guys starting...); and now the bench has some scoring ability too... Just thinking out loud...

This makes me think that it might be better if Ivey can develop into a primary ball-handler... and make Cade the secondary guy... Speaking only about Cade: it might make him more effective.

Even if there was no critical "pop" or "hit".... He still can't go deep with accuracy, won't go deep often enough, is not pocket-aware, takes unnecessary sacks, throws too many INT's and has too many fumbles. He cracks under pressure. And has no ability to "improvise" or "create something"... He's proven to me, Detroit, and the Lions coaches and FO I believe, what his weaknesses are. He can QB a team. He can "game manage" an offense. But he is Carson Wentz/ Ryan Tannehill/ Andy Dalton... Decent enough guys but not the QB that will just put a team on his back and drive the team to wins... I think his QBR is telling... roughly about 50 for his career. On a par with the 3 guys I mentioned above. These guys can win games.. but the team has to carry them, not the other way around. Stafford has a career QBR of 55-60 (I don't see a career #, that's a WAG...). He carried teams. But didn't have good enough teams around him to get anywhere. He did need some manner of support... Rams proved that out last year. I want to build the absolute best team out there, and put the best QB we can find in the lead... might be hard to do but... IMO we have to find better than Goff... he's proven that to me.

I would NOT rather the Lions draft Will Anderson than CJ Stroud. However... I'm going to guess that we are just not going to be in a position to get Stroud. So... I think by default, we're going to be hoping that Will Anderson or Jalen Carter falls to us for our first pick. The second 1st rounder from the Rams could be open to all sorts of possibilities... athletic sideline-to-sideline LB'er, another CB to pair with Okudah, any QB that might be available here that the team believes can take over as starter... Maybe RB but I'd rather they wait until the 2/3/4th before trying to find some RB depth. I think the other 4 spots rank higher in need: QB, DL, LB, CB.

They might do that at some point. But my guess is the Lions won't do that to start the 2023 season. I would be grateful for a 3rd rounder for Goff, when the time comes... He has two more years? I thought it was only this year and next year... but I guess that's two years, right? If so... then they could easily hold on until the end of the 2023 season, if that's the same as his contract ending...

If it's a deal we can't refuse... sure, don't refuse it. But I think his track record will now limit any offers we may have received for him... down to... fire-sale value. The league now definitely sees what he is/ isn't; and all his warts have been exposed by two different teams that had him set up for some measure of success. So most likely we'll end up holding onto him until the end as a new-QB tutor and then backup. Until his contract ends and he moves on...

DD was NOT fired because he traded Price. Or anyone.

This. Goff will be kept, not traded. Drafted QB can be developed behind Goff for a year or so, rather than tossed directly into the fire. When drafted QB is ready (hopefully at some point in his draft year) and Goff lays a stinker... in comes drafted QB.

Let's start with Miggy.

It's too early to make judgement calls on last year's 3rd rounders... But then.... the clock does appear to be ticking... and against a lot of Holmes' picks...

Well... He was bent over head to the ground and... shook his head back and forth a few times... like he was trying to clear his head from having its bell rung... I don't know if that means anything... it might mean squat; and he came back concussive-negative IIRC.... But that's just what I'm seeing and why they might have been overcautious... especially after Tua... Chalk this up to... After Tua.

Even if it is fully guaranteed, as Ed pointed out. Additionally: 1) I don't care about the money. 2) $7 mill is a pittance in MLB terms... as chas points out. 3) I firmly believe that any commitment to Candy in no way, shape, or form, abrogates further salary commitments to improve this team. Not in general, and not specifically to the IF (Correa or otherwise...).

IMO: We can do both. The Tigers can offer arbitration if they believe he is redeemable and has some kind of future value... AND the team can just as quickly move on from him as soon as they find a better option. Let's just say that the better option, for whatever reason, does not turn up until January or February (late FA signing, trade, whatever...); there should be no impediment to moving on from Jeimer. To one of Chas's earlier points: there are teams out there that have a need and will certainly look at Jeimer as a candidate. He does not have ZERO value out on the market despite what anyone thinks of him here... Harris "should" be able to trade him at any point in time, as long as he hasn't destroyed his 2023 value (medically, atrocious start to 2023 in which February will have revealed nothing to that point, or otherwise, etc.).

Possible future trade value at the deadline? Yes.

PS: I'd rather sign Eva Longoria, as 3B coach, just for the eye candy... Than Evan Longoria.

I would be interested in this as an alternative. Not signing Longoria.

Except... The calculated risk yields more dividends with Candy getting back to a 3 WAR player than holding onto the corpse of Evan Longoria. But more to the point... I'm going to guess that Harris counts pennies. Because pennies can sometimes add up to dollars. The reward to the risk of betting on Candy next year is that Harris can trade him at the deadline for something of value. Versus absolutely zero value for 37 y.o. Longoria. And even if it's trading Shane Greene for Joey Wentz, or Daniel Norris for Reese Olson or Jeimer Candelario at the trade deadline for... ____________? ... there is the possibility of unlocking some kind of future value by betting on a Candy recovery. But... that would be... A calculated risk.