SoCalTiger

That sounds like a good plan for Mize. However I am curious how the other 5 staters(Skubal-Flahtery-Maeda-Manning-Olen) fit in ? Are we thinking one in the minors, piggy back or six man rotation and with the latter two is a seven man bullpen sufficient ?

Yes I don’t think we should expect much from Mize next year. First year back from two surgeries and two years from any innings pitched. It will be a challenge to get him a consistent spot when the upside is what 100 innings?

I will try that after the Holidays. Now's the time to be jolly 🙂

Ok thanks !

I currently have the Athletic at $40/year which is reasonable but agree not as good as advertised. Never joined BR or FG but might try them.

I pay like $10 bucks a month for the Detroit News sports page and wonder why. It’s only 10 $ but is it a waste of time ?

The Flahtery signing will prove very beneficial. As it stands now he has the most innings from 2023 of all our starters and we need innings badly. Plus it’s his second year from injury and a springboard to free agency at 29. He will be gone after 2024 so we can pitch him to death next year. He is essentially our mercenary for 2024. Good match and he should do well.

It only angers them because they did not think of it first.

It's allowed per the rules which will probably be changed the next time around.

I was told there would be no math.

Good not great off season so far. Still need an impact addition. Starter, closer or Bat. One more step. Beam him up Scotty !

Or beat his wife/girlfriend.

He wanted to save on moving costs and his dog likes where they live.

Blue Jays ?? What a shocker that would be.

I will also go with door # 3 because Friedman also thought he would agree. Harris and Friedman certainly covered their bases I would think. But I will add it's possible (pure speculation) ERod was harboring ill feelings for not being paid the year before during his sabbatical and had an axe to grind.

Ohtani and Yamamoto are holding the meetings hostage.

Im sure they would. Maybe add a pitcher like fado or madden

I agree that Manning could have decent trade value in this market for teams that need pitching but either don't spend ( Orioles ) or tight budget (Padres). We need a lefty starter (Imanga) and if obtained one we could trade Manning or even Madden/Flores if the return is right. I could see Rodgers traded this week as well since catchers are hard to get. Of course we need him also but for the right return it could be considered. They did retain Kelly and might value him higher than we think. This is the first winter meetings in ages that we have money to spend and assets of value to trade. It could be a huge few days in shaping our team for 2024. Go BIG Scot.

No way that happens. He stiffed them worse than us.

I also still believe they are on Yamamoto and Imagna HARD.

You can never have enough pitching especially since virtually all of our starting pitchers have dealt with recent injuries or are still unproven at the MLB level.

A right handed hitting McStinky. Dual chess pieces for Dr. Hinchenstein to piece together.

That seems reasonable as well for Gray. So far all pitcher singings have been low or "expected". maybe the TV $$ is suppressing inflationary salaries this year ? Or everyone is focused on Ohtani and Yamamoto.

He could get ht with a line drive on his foot...twice !...naw what's the odds of that.....

I think Maeda is better than Rodriguez right now, 2024. remember 2023 was first year back from Tommy John surgery. Second year back is usually when the pitcher recovers. Which is why Mize might disappoint next year. I am quite happy with this signing.