SoCalTiger

Perhaps he’s the father of said girl’s child and both were younger at the time but still underage ? Could be a martial issue, wife just found out, that has him on the restricted list and not the age thing ? Or both ? Who knows. Best way to solve it is trade him to Detroit for nothing.

is it possible we might have enough offense on the team for 2024 if players keep improving and Keith comes up and its our starting pitching we need to be worried about ?

This is fun. Need to think a bit. Nice thread.

That’s a good idea. Could be fun as well if he embraced it.

We have a good one in Greene

Happy for Lorenzen and his success should only help Detroit sign free agents. It's a win for Harris who needs a monster off season because we are all tired of being happy for others. Time to be happy for US !!

Great !!

one to go...

This one hurts, he's been on the fringes of my life for 56 years as player and broadcaster. What a career. He probably feels he never worked a day in his life. He will be and has been missed.

I'm not so sure. Parades stats this year are better than Meadows was tracking when we got him, the cost is 8 million over two years versus maybe 2 and the rays have 6 years of control versus 3.

Indeed and he really messed up trading Mr. Lee to Detroit ( I hope ).

Willy Adames

Well he plays solid RF and actually has a right fielders arm so you know we can't allow that.

I don't expect any call ups this year. Harris is playing the long game. 2026/27

With all due respect and acknowleding you know way more baseball than me I will be cheering. Despite recognizing my "understanding" of what went down could be incorrect I am done with him.

After seeing the replay I still don’t know why it started ?

I’m guessing very little discussion. Erod knows damn well he left Harris out to dry and Harris is probably burned at himself for trusting him and his agent. I agree with you it will play out and either way he will be gone before next season either via opt out or trade. i will be shocked he doesn’t opt out because he knows staying he knows he will end up in one of 20 locations not of his choosing. i don’t even want to watch him pitch. Dead man walking.

It also might feature the worst defensive infield in MLB and a disaster in total when including RF.

Yes and it’s the difference between old school and new analytic POBO’s or Al v Harris. Mike I was too slow too see this and make the switch. Peter Angolos or his son in Baltimore did and switched GM sooner which is why the Orioles , who used to suck like us , have flown past us. Harris can do the same but not trading Erod does slow things a bit. But I do think Mike Elias is the best in the game.

How could they look at Issac Paredes build and not see power ? Did they take him for a base stealer ? Jee wiz. If he had gotton Matons leash we wouldn’t be looking for a third baseman.

I hope we aren’t saying the same thing next year at this time.

Not me. And if he opts in I'm trading him soonest possible.

I will call it bull****. He resides in Miami and the rest is about the $$ which was proven when he agreed to go for another 20 million which is fine IF you state that early and own it.

I think, IMO , we have a super solid POP in Scot Harris this situation not withstanding but he is looking farther out than we probably like as in 2026 or later. Drafting high school kids and swapping out 28 year old catchers for 22 year olds assuming Rogers for Dalton Rushing tends to indicate as much.

As usual it all about the $$$$. Just be man enough and say it instead of hiding under skirts. Pathetic. Obviously Harris and Detroit want him gone because 20 million added to his contract is still very reasonable but that was not offered and even the Dodgers with more cash than any team and desperate for a starter didn't offer that because they also were hoping for the opt out if they made the deal. Erod and his sleazy agent have made a mess of his future options. Either stay in Detroit for under market money (which should be ok to his family since they are happy in Detroit ) or enter the market with many other choices and none of them with the baggage. I'm ok with Harris on this but if he gives him more money then he's a fool unless in return the no trade list option and opt out is taken away.