buddha

we should know tonight whether we get to see the pistons run out smith/monroe/drummond 2.0.

he was injured the year before too. that should tell you something about dj chark next year. i dont see it. but you never know. he has potential.

why would anyone pay that kind of money for dj chark? there are likely to be multiple receivers available who are better who will sign for less money than that. plus jaymo will presumably be healthy. if they want chark they can get him for less than that. and i hope they will let him go if he wants more. this reminds me of the jamal williams arguments. he's a decent player but not a world beater. he's replaceable. same as chark. save your money for the sewell and st brown extensions you have coming up.

good thing we traded a future first round pick to get isaiah stewart. totally good use of resources to draft a guy who may be a nice bench player on a team that's won barely 20 games for the last three years.

how?

youre on. is that the beer i owe you from that time you said joey harrington was better than peyton manning?😉

of course. arizona would not. come on 84, be realistic.

absolutely not. no way.

seider has returned to being near elite, imo. he's playing much better now that he's not with chairot anymore.

maybe. i would do that unless i can get a first for him (which i think they might be able to get).

i dont see it. i'd rather get something for bert. it will be interesting to see if they call up vrana or leave him to rot in GR.

it is not ridiculous and it should happen. but youre right. it almost certainly will not. after all, tom gores is the owner.

all i've heard this week from the weaver apologists is that he's really good at drafting so we should trust him on wiseman. but is he? what evidence is there that he's good at drafting? hayes/bey/stewart has produced what? two average to below average nba rotation players and a point guard who has been borderline unplayable until recently when he's graduated to "poor starter, potential bench player". cade, who hasnt played enough to determine if he's going to be any good, but has shown some encouraging signs but some not so encouraging signs...and he was the #1 pick. and ivey/duren, who the jury is very much out on. i think his asset management has been extremely poor. theyre supposedly building up to this offseason with a bunch of salary cap money, but just spent a bunch of that on marvin bagley and james wiseman. we keep being told that this is all going to miraculously come together next year when we have all this money. we shall see. as del has said before, if the pistons arent play in candidates at the very least by next year weaver should be fired.

or that when you have a ton of immobile bigs, modern teams will shoot over you or drive around you, making those bigs unplayable. as an example, you can see the playoffs for the last five years or so.

then why do the pistons keep collecting them?

bert looks good again. now hurry up and trade him.

wiseman is much more skilled than drummond ever was. drummond was a 6'11 manchild. when all he was tasked to do was run, jump, and dunk, he was fine. it was when he got paid and then demanded to be a focal point on offense when he became ridiculous. then as the game changed he became a ridiculous albatross. but in the beginning he was more than fine.

drummond on a cheap salary in his early years was fine. it was when he got paid and demanded to be part of the offense that he turned intoba turd. iirc, you were all about drafting drummond. as we all were.

bad win.

30 points for our 19 year old center. i know! lets trade for multiple guys who play his position!!!!

lol.

that's a good point. i agree with you. wiseman obviously has upside that some (including me) are probably discounting because he's been so bad at every level so far. and honestly, its not like im watching his games. but i think this is the same situation with bagley and okafor (even bol bol). its weaver's obsession with big men in a time when big men are being de-emphasized in the game. and you already have one with upside. why do you need three?

you hear the troy weaver justifications already. "if weaver had him at the top of his board its a good gamble." ummm...what? that says more about weaver's board than it does james wiseman. bagley last year? mmmm....ok, i guess. taking a gamble on a guy who had some potential when you have nothing else at the big man position at the time. but since then you have....BAGLEY and DUREN! why are we using an asset to acquire another one? it wasnt a wiseman or bey decision. you could have dealt bey for something else if you didnt think he was a rotation player. and no one seems to be bringing up that if bey isnt a rotation player, why did troy trade multiple players and picks for him in the first place? and keith langlois is employed by the team, what do we expect him to say? im waiting for his article on tom gores' amazing vision for the team, coming next month.

hollinger: What’ so wild about Detroit acquiring Wiseman is that the Pistons already have a young, promising center from the University of Memphis. Jalen Duren is barely 19 — nearly three years younger than the “prospect” Detroit acquired — and is already a better player. You have your center of the future, Detroit! You don’t need another one! The other bizarre part is that the Pistons didn’t trade Alec Burks or Bojan Bogdanović, apparently eyeing a sharp move up the standings a year from now. Whatever you think of how realistic this approach is, the cognitive dissonance here is jarring. I’m sorry, but, “We’re trying to win next year,” and, “We traded Saddiq Bey for James Wiseman,” are not compatible statements. Even if Bey isn’t a long-term starter, he was much more likely to help next season, costs half as much and doesn’t overlap with two other good young players at the same position. Oh well. As long as Isaiah Stewart gets shoehorned into more minutes as a pretend four, I’m happy. Wiseman has shown some improvement in Golden State, but the basic issues of hands, awareness and feel are never really going away; most analytic methods still rate him among the league’s least effective players. For the rest of this season, at least, he’ll be an elite tank commander, but asking next season’s coaching staff (whomever it is) to win immediately will result in Wiseman on the end of the bench by Thanksgiving. In the meantime, if the Pistons weren’t keeping Bey, this was a major missed opportunity to get a return on a rotation-caliber young player with a good contract.

and weaver uses our cap space to sign him to a three year $45 million deal.