slothfacekilla

I can't believe I bought a Zadina jersey

Is there a trade in the works I feel like the Wings are adding a ton of players…

No thanks!

Time to sign Anthony Mantha

So I guess the Yzerplan is to build more of an Islanders type of team that is theoretically tough to play against rather than what he did in Tampa Bay which I would say was go for a more skilled up-tempo roster. It makes some sense with the bad luck they've had in the draft lotteries (and he wasn't blessed with a number 1 defenseman and number 1 center like he was in Tampa when he took that job) but I can't say that it excites me a ton. At least now Veleno shouldn't be anywhere except line four as a center.

He seems like a solid player

Apparently DeBrincats agent has been given permission to talk contract with some teams. twitter is busted not sure if this will work

I wish they would have gone cheaper and maybe they wouldn’t have signed Reimer or Holl.

That Killorn deal is nuts

Well I at least like that Sprong signing. Cheap, he can score some goals. Maybe you can flip him at the deadline.

Wow I absolutely hate this offseason so far. We signed two backup goalies, the more expensive one had an awful year last year and is an asshole. Justin Holl sucks and they gave him 3 years at $3 million plus. I am not happy, at least Twitter is f'ed so I can't hate scroll my timeline.

Luff back on a two way deal

I am guessing they have something in place with Kostin but I dunno seems odd?

I really appreciate how active the red wings forums have been lately, I enjoy talking hockey with you all.

I think the Chiarot deal is the biggest headscratcher for me. I sort of see some of the logic, but I really disliked it from the jump. Theoretically he adds toughness and had just gotten flipped for a first round pick + at the trade deadline....but I do not like watching him play defense for my team.

I mean I can see what the Wings were doing with Vrana, they traded Mantha and got Vrana and both first and second round picks. Vrana was younger and had a better goalscoring touch. The Capitals pretty much sat Mantha at the end of his deal so it isn't like we missed out on his production / lack of hustle (Mantha in 118 games with Washington: 58 points, Vrana in 42 games in Detroit had 32 points). The fact they got the first and second round picks still makes it a win to me even with Vrana's personal issues killing his place on the team. I am more than fine with the Wings trying these sort of things just sometimes they don't work out! I guess if you think they should have dug deeper into his personal issues before the trade + contract then I wouldn't argue against that maybe it was something they could have figured out. Man Vrana working out would have been such a boost to the rebuild, they need a pure goal scorer like that so badly.

I want to stress I do not blame anyone who is feeling impatient, we are fans and thrive on our team's success! I reaaaallllllllllllly hope we are a season or two away from real playoff contention.

It was a lot easier when there was no salary cap and other team's scouting deficiencies let you get guys like Lidstrom and Fedorov in the third and fourth rounds in the same draft. Then you have the contracts and everything Yzerman started with: Top 10 prospects from Bultmans end of 2018 ranking. Libor Sulak Joe Hicketts Vili Saarijarvi Gustav Lindstrom Evengy Svechnikov Jared McIssac Berggren Hronek Veleno Zadina More bad contracts than good, really no great prospects to speak of. I'm not sure that Seattle and Vegas are comparable since their gm's were able to completely decide what they wanted their team to be with very favorable protection rules, whereas Yzerman got what he was given. Seattle was even given the second overall pick to get Berniers as a cornerstone of their franchise, what has Yzerman had to work with? I myself am getting impatient but outside of some other GM being a miracle worker and getting really really lucky with trades and prospects I am not shocked that it is taking this long. I do scratch my head at some Yzerman moves but I am more than fine giving him more time to cook here.

Yes I rounded up from $2,666,666 to $3 million for my comment for only this season's savings on the hit, I didn't think it would be a sticking point for people! My idea was that saving that much this season (and having a small cap hit next season I guess) seems odd when they're still rebuilding, but if Yzerman wants to save that money or even just a roster spot for someone else I'm not going to be upset. Just surprised. Young, cost controlled player that has some success. But he has trended down since his rookie season so it isn't anything I'm going to rant against. He also is small with injury history. The Wings do seem like they're going to look to fill one or two forward roster spots after signing Kostin and Veleno but I guess they didn't think Yamamoto was a worthwhile placeholder for one season. I'll be very interested to see what they do with the money and roster spot now since I imagine they have something in mind.

Huh? He's young so he costs less than $500k against their cap this season and then a little over $500k next season? https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/redwings

It looks like it was a majority of his time with Shane Pinto which will definitely hurt his numbers. Playing two minutes less a night than he did in Chicago doesn't help either.

It sounds like Kostin is about to sign a two year deal. I've seen that Lindstrom is already looking for work in Europe.

It just seems odd to be scraping together ~$3 million in cap space for one season with where the Wings are at with their roster. If they were a contender the freed up space makes a lot of sense. Yamamoto has shown flashes, is only 24 years old, and was RFA after this contract. I'm not sure it would have hurt to see if he clicks with the roster and see if there's something there but just my feeling on it. I'm not upset just surprised.

Yamamoto only had one year left on his contract, I'm not sure why you buy him out unless you are looking to add a ton of salary via trades and free agency this offseason. Taking Yamamoto was necessary to get Kostin for nothing but I am curious why this was needed.

Wings are apparently buying out Yamamoto, kinda surprised.