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Tatis suspended 80 games for use an illegal substance.

It is corrected now 🤔

So I log on MLB audio app to listen to the Tigers and I’m getting the Lions game!!!

At 67 years young, I do find it pretty cool that there is so much diversity age-wise here. Somewhat to Bert’s point, this board is a therapy of sorts for those of us who suffer at the hands of the Tigers prolonged reign of futility. It’s a refuge in times of angst and woe. This place is like the local bar in some ways. You’re free to vent frustrations among other exercises that gives one the impression they’ve actually accomplished something just by showing up.

We made our first pilgrimage to Tiger Stadium in August 1991 to see the Tigers play the Yankees for two games. We managed to sit behind the plate just a few rows back toward the later innings of one of the games. Watched Mike Henneman strike out Mel Hall looking to end the game. Not a better seat anywhere in baseball, then or now.

For whatever reason, I really enjoyed following the Tigers during these years. Other names through this era would be Deer, Gladden, and Gregg Jeffries. I think Fryman was still in the mix then as well. That Sparky was managing the team and they were still in Tiger Stadium made it more fun as well.

Oxymoron

I have thought the same thing for years.

Deja Vu all over again.

For the past several years now I have firmly believed that Avila thought he could draft this team into playoff contention without having to be active in the trade market. I think on the way out the door he still believed that. I think he knew, better than anyone else, that he would be on the losing end more often than not in straight up deals with other GMs across the league. With that mindset, he stood pat.

I’d be open to hiring a new manager. Never have been a big Hinch fan and now I see him as just another piece of the epic fail saga.

Very true. I guess I’ve got it bad-I was thinking about this trade laying in bed this morning. It was a total fiasco. From what I recall Avila was at JV’s house waiting for a response in the final hour of the deadline. JV was really on the fence about leaving Detroit. Finally, at the last hour he reportedly turned to Kate and said, “Screw it, we’re going to Houston.” What a sad tale to tell as a Tiger fan.

Coolbaugh should be the next guy out the door.

Win one for Al boys.

The 2019 D on the hat was billboard size! It was atrocious. I think that was Chris’ idea. The Tiger through the D was awful as well. This team has one of the coolest hats out there and these morons spin their wheels trying to ruin it.

I had forgotten all about that episode.

Roseanne Cash, “Hold On”

This is my take on it as well. Chris inherited this team. Mike built what had been a good team. Mike had played for the Tigers in the minors. His blood was in the Tigers’ fortunes, good & bad. I don’t know that Chris, to this day, really cares about the Tigers as most owners might.

Most likely, yes. Buy I believe Al fed Chris so much shit he didn’t know the long term results of this. Al probably was telling him trading JV would be the answer to the glory days on the horizon. Al was in over his head. The “full bore” line was telling. He knew he was running out of rope.

I understand where you’re coming from but…Chris was asked specifically about JV and JD. This organization has been a flaming turd for years now. If Al was responsible for the shit, lay it out there. He’ll, we all knew it. It’s no secret Avila was in way over his head. The fans deserve to get an honest cut from the owner if he’s willing to talk. Illitch needs, more than anyone, to learn from this. He doesn’t need to play Steinbrenner but he should have an idea of what really is going on in the organization.

I have always believed, and stated as much, that Al had Chris snowed. Al Fed Illitch the lines he wanted to hear, played him like a fiddle. Case in point: “The rebuild is 100% complete.” I believe Illitch left the business of the Tigers to Avila. Ultimately, you would say the buck stops with Illitch but I believed from the beginning this was Avila’s baby. That Illitch finally saw the light, great. I agree with Chas that the only reason Illitch moved now was because the shit was in the press and on the talk shows, etc. The shit was on his doorstep and he probably realized that his judgement was in question. However it went down, thank you!!!!

This scenario is a huge bonus for the organization. Glad he got the “full bore” exit.

I’m not a fan of Luhnow but I almost dropped his name here the other day. I’d go with it if they can get him.

The rebuild is 100% over.

As of this weekend, Verlander and Scherzer were tied at 3,140 strikeouts apiece in the their MLB careers.