Mr.TaterSalad

97.1 just reported this as well.

Don't we all agree though that the HB dives and draw plays on second down for a handful of yards, 2-3 per carry, gets predictable and annoying at times? It seems we have this wide open, unpredictable, creative offense 75% of the time. Then 2nd down rolls around and sometimes, but not always, we end up with a humdrum, predictable handoff to a RB for little to no gain. If we can call and predict the next play on 2nd down from our couches, you know opposing DC's and teams are reading it on the field. Sometimes it feels like we are running the ball out of obligation on 2nd down. Feeling like we are surrendering 2nd down at times. Yes, clearly, there are multiple instances this season and last that you can point to under Ben Johnson were we had big gains on 2nd down. Yes, clearly, Ben Johnson is lightyears ahead of any OC we've had in recent memory from Linehan to Lombardi to JBC to Bevell. I'd like to see the Lions and Ben Johnson's stats on 2nd down compared to other teams. How efficient are we on 2nd downs converting firsts. Yards per play we get on 2nd down. Run vs. pass play call on 2nd down, etc. Maybe it isn't as bad as some of us think and we're making a mountain out of a molehill. I think it is perfectly fair to recognize and appreciate that Ben Johnson has turned Jared Goff and this offense around and made us a dynamic offensive team as a whole. Doing that, while recognizing that there are play calls and instances where we feel he could change things up or do things differently. We don't have to be jumping off a cliff or blasting Ben Johnson out of a cannon with an overaction. However, we can still look at individual play calling instances or a perceived pattern of play calling, like on 2nd down, analyze, discuss, and criticize it.

The SOL teams of the past would have folded in that 3rd quarter and let Rodgers or Farve or Matt Flynn march right down the field and make a comeback. The SOL teams of the past would have made costly, undisciplined penalties that would have extended drives. The SOL teams of the past would have made a coaching mistake that cost them the game. One thing Dan Campbell has turned these guys into, that SOL teams of seasons past were not, was finishers. You think about the Lions teams that have blown it against Green Bay or Chicago or whomever and could never close it out. This team rebounded after the 3rd quarter and finished them off.

Same Old Packers

We just might be a really damn good football team.

Get the starters outta there.

Listen to that crowd lol. Let's go Lions indeed!!!

Why even risk Branch playing now?

Nice drive to eat up a lot of clock and likely ice it with a TD and PAT to go up three scores!

Ball game!!! Way to answer back in the 4th quarter.

WOW, what a break we caught there. We deserved that after getting effffed on the 0:00 clock BS.

No take the points!

Why must our second down play calling be so pedestrian?

Nice catch Reynolds. Love that play call off play action.

Big first down there

0:00 that generally means there is no time left on the clock . . . unless you play the Lions.

The refs find a new way to cheat us every time!

Just to ahead and say it.

**** me

Can we challenge this?

The refs are after us now too.

Are you ****ing kidding me???

This is a crucial drive for our defense. We have to get a stop here.

And they all almost never convert. Take a shot beyond the sticks and give yourself a chance.