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That's exactly why I wanted them to sign Goff to an extension sooner. I don't think the rising cap will make a massive difference (he would have gotten $45m+ even if signed earlier) but every dollar counts and now Goff will be $50m+.

Monty is pure sabotage. This guy is just collecting fat paychecks, he had no interest in coaching this year until pathetic Gores begged him countless times to coach his poverty franchise so, lo and behold, he still has no interest in coaching even though he's getting paid many fat stacks to do so. Yeah the roster has obvious flaws but this coach has gotten the least out of them and even less than that. I could go down a long list of errors from his asinine rotations, to his even more asinine system, to starting Killian for however many games to dicking around Ausar and Sasser with their minutes, to benching Ivey in favor of Killian, to deploying Cade as if he's Luka Doncic to.... well, you get the idea. He's a bum and needs to go. Gores could give him his sweet buyout payment then let the door hit his ass on the way out.

This franchise is doomed, I had a glimmer of hope after that nice 3 game stretch against a fully healthy Kings team, the Portland comeback and pushing the fully healthy Clippers to the brink but it's been a whole lot of WTF since then. I also had a glimmer of hope about the deadline acquisitions and Grimes can't even get on the court now. Poverty franchise

I'm actually looking forward to Pistons games now, it's an odd feeling. I was also one of the few, I think, that liked what Weaver did at the deadline. Got rid of the old one dimensional chuckers and brought in guys that are younger, energetic and should play more of a team game. Interested to see how the pieces fit.

Losing Jonah is not going to **** up the offensive line. He is NOT the engine of that line, the tackles and Ragnow have been. Glasgow was better than Jonah last season for long stretches, Awosika looked solid too. There's also the draft. Ragnow has missed 3 total games the last 2 seasons so... You talk about Frank missing a bunch of games yet Jonah was the one who has been absent the most, missing 9 games to Ragnow's 3 and that's not including the playoffs when he was out of the lineup against SF. You can get angry and combative all you want but the reality is that quality players get paid on the free agent market, overpays happen all the time. Laken Tomlinson just got 3 years $40m, you don't think Jonah could get that on the open market? It's possible that he won't but you can't simply just dismiss the possibility just because YOU say so. The free agent market has proven that somebody could very well pay him top 10 guard money. We'll just agree to disagree. You think the line will fall apart without him, I don't. If he comes back at a discounted rate then I'm all for re-signing him but if he commands top 10 guard money then I'm letting him walk. I think it's 50/50.

I think he'll get more on the open market and the Lions can't afford to sign a guard for top 10 guard money, which is what Jonah will likely get, with Ragnow and Decker getting top dollar and Sewell soon to be the highest paid tackle in the league (and rightfully so). I thought the offensive line looked fine with Jonah out. Re-sign Glasgow at a reasonable rate and have a rotation of young guys (Awoslka, Sorsdal, draft pick) at the other guard spot and sign a vet for depth.

That would be a very unHolmeslike move and considering that this draft is in Detroit even less of a chance that they trade the pick for a win now solution. Plus, Bosa is never healthy. I don't see a move for Reddick either for that matter. I just can't see Holmes abandoning his plan and selling off futures for immediate help and/or making free agent splashes with big long term contracts like for Chris Jones or Hunter for example. Holmes seems like a man that's very strong with his convictions so I see more focus on drafting and developing, re-signing his own guys and taking chances on bargain bin free agents with short term deals. Could see Moseley and/or CJGJ back on 1 year prove it deals, for example.

This team is a lot of fun to watch right now, the fact that Killian was blocking Sasser for this long is a basketball crime. I'm really glad that Weaver traded B and B and brought in those younger more well rounded guys, looking forward to seeing how they fit in.

I'm good with it. Get rid of these older one dimensional shooters for younger more well rounded shooters. Apparently Grimes was inconsistent shooting this season but he's traditionally been a good shooter so I like this deal overall.

I'll say it again, the Pistons have looked better without Cade and it's a growing sample size of this. The offense flows a lot better without him and with Ivey and then Sasser at the control. I blame Monty not Cade for this btw. Once Monty stops deploying Cade as if he's Luka, he and the Pistons will be better off for it. Cade's role is likely to be best maximized off ball as a secondary ballhandler. He's just not a good enough decision maker/playmaker to offset the lack of athleticism, to go along with a mediocre 3 point shot.

And now Weaver gives Morris away for a bag of peanuts. Yeah you want to give Sasser minutes but they could have done that with Morris and in fact, Morris would have been the perfect vet for him to play off of. Just get rid of Killian if you want to clear up roster space, there....easy.

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I was reading on another board that Jazz fans really like him fwiw and apparently there were a lot of suitors so this could be a decent addition. Seems like a bit of an overpay to add a very high 2nd (just about a late 1st) in addition to Knox for him but this draft is trash anyway so why the hell not. Maybe they have something with this guy.

There's no way that you get Goff, Hunter and J. Reynolds for that cheap. Those numbers aren't even close IMO. Even old Gilmore will probably get more than that coming off his best season in a while. I also think Ra will get north of $100m on a 4 year deal.

The Reynolds drops had nothing to do with the Niners talent. Those two drops were massive gamechangers. I fully believe that if Reynolds catches that first 4th down, the Lions win this game and probably not by an insignificant margin. The 3rd and 10 drop he was WIDE open and Goff put it right into his chest, that had nothing to do with talent, and that could have stemmed the momentum at 24-24 then who knows. The Gibbs fumble was him going the wrong way on the handoff and losing full grip of the ball, that was a mental error not a lack of talent. One can argue that Vildor not making that catch was due to lack of talent at the position so that one I'd agree on.The Niners made some plays after the gifts and they're the more talented team on paper but the Lions coughed this one up. The Niners got really lucky that the Lions choked. In any event, what's done is done so we'll see how Holmes plugs the holes this offseason because this was a golden opportunity missed by the Lions with a team that just seemed to have destiny on their side with a fairly undermanned roster compared to The Final 4 teams at least. It's going to get harder next season, the division isn't soft anymore and the schedule, on paper, looks tougher so hopefully the Lions are up to the challenge.

Isn't that the thing though? He's always injured. Also, those are nice numbers but there's also some stat padding in there when games were out of reach. He's been poor in clutch situations most of the season. Not all on him but he just doesn't have that ability, it appears, to elevate and carry a team when they really need him. I saw more of that ability in him in his rookie season and he seems to have lost his way in the important moments since.

No doubt that San Francisco was the more talented team but talent isn't why they lost the game. The Lions completely gave it away combined with bad luck, they weren't overwhelmed by any means. A drop on 4th down, a bounce off the helmet right into Aiyuk's hands, a fumble on a botched hand off, a drop on 3rd and 10 at 24-24, that's your ballgame right there in 4 quick botched plays in a matter of a few minutes. The Lions handed it to them on a silver platter, a honolulu blue and silver platter. The Niners got extremely lucky, flat out. One of the luckier wins that I've ever seen in a big game. With that said, there's some critical areas of the team that absolutely need a talent infusion so you don't have guys like Vildor in a position to not make a play on a ball, a #2 like Sutton getting shredded weekly by top receivers and no pass rush unless you're sending extra guys.

The lack of progression in Cade's game, and in fact some regression, is probably the most disheartening thing about this season since he's the biggest key to their future because it's looking more and more like he's not going to be the franchise player that he was drafted to be. Scottie Barnes is looking like a significantly better player, who would have ever thought that?

Same thing with Campbell at LB. He's white so he's gotta be slow. I'd love for the Lions to get Dejean but I don't think he'll be there at 29.

Does it matter when it's vets that are keeping them in the game and the youth that's getting pummeled? What a waste of a season. Also, it was funny to see Ivey finally get the chance to drive a ball in the 4th after all the Bogey and Burks chucks and Cade pounding the ball and missed layup possessions then Monty calls a timeout right when Ivey was driving the ball and sets up a play for Burks to get the ball in the corner as the shot clock was winding down only to get a shot clock violation. Also, Sasser with a whole 10 minutes of action even with Killian out and refusing to put a real defender on Mitchell when he was going off (Ausar maybe? perhaps?). I don't think I've ever disliked a Pistons coach more and there's a long line of ones to dislike over the last 15 years.

I don't understand why Glenn gets blamed then in the same token you say how awful the CBs are. I think AG gets way more blame than he should. IMO, he doesn't have good enough/experienced enough personnel to run a conventional defense that can survive in this league so what he did, smartly, is acknowledge that after around the second Packers game and started blitzing more knowing that the defense would give up big plays but also forcing the QB into more mistakes so what happened was that while offenses had more big plays down the field the defense created a lot more turnovers and the points against went down a bit as a result. There's only so much he could do with a defense that was littered with youth, had vets (Sutton and Vildor) in over their head and no pass rushers to speak of outside of Hutch. I don't think Sutton should be cut, he struggled because due to the Moesley injury he was thrust into #1 CB duty which he's ill equipped to handle. He'll be better when, I assume, Holmes gets a #1 CB this offseason and pushes Sutton back to #2 CB where he belongs.

Likely but we don't really know what he is yet and the coach is very inconsistent with how he displays him so hard to tell what he can become if given more opportunity.

Huge news, keeping this continuity will really pay dividends next season. Poor TP in shambles.

I can't see it being that low but that would be a nice break for the Lions if he does take less.

I'm going to call out an opinion when it's not based in reality. You know who were pure pocket passers? Brady, Manning, Brees. Arguably the 3 best QBs of their generation that won Superbowls. Which of those guys escaped the pocket and threw on the run? Which of those guys was slinging sidearm throws on the regular? Which of those guys ran for 1st downs more than a handful of times? I'm not saying he's as good as those guys but that's the type of QB those guys were, the type of QB that won multiple Superbowls. You don't like Goff because he doesn't fit the prototype QB that you prefer and that's fine because everybody has their preferences but what is not fine is saying that he's a game manager at best. Game managers aren't around top 5 in nearly every passing categories including deep passes completed btw. He has led a top 5 offense in not only one but two seasons here. He also led a top offense with the Rams, he also led a top offense with Cal. He's won at every stop with different head coaches, different coordinators, different supporting casts. Yes, Goff has limited mobility, Goff is not going to WOW you with flashy plays but the guy has been ultra effective at every stop and has been a consistent winner. You don't like him? You don't think the Lions can win with him? (which is silly since they damn near just made a Superbowl with him). Well, good luck finding a QB as good as him, a guy who has been a top 10 QB in this league. Also, Goff was NOT the reason they lost yesterday. Anybody who thinks that has a clear agenda. The offense scored 31 points and this is including at least 4-5 critical drops that I remember off the top of my head. Josh Reynolds makes a catch on that 4th down and the Lions probably go on to win this game. Josh Reynolds makes a catch on 3rd and 10 that was right in his chest, the Lions stem the momentum at 24-24. Jamo makes a catch that sailed right through his hands down 27-24 then they're up 31-27. Ridiculous that anybody would blame Goff for the loss yesterday. 4 TDs and 0 INTs in the playoffs, no turnovers in 3 games and we have people saying he's not good enough. It's silly season here already and the offseason just began.