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The second unit is once again imploding. But this game was slipping away before that.

So much for Cade getting some calls. But seriously, the Hawks are 9-21 from three. The Pistons are 4-20. And Bogey is 2-4. You have to be able to knock down some threes. I can only defend Bey for so long. He has to take them and he has to make some.

First of all...you have to hit your open shots. But you also have to make the smart play. Cade throwing a poor lob to Ivey. Cade passing up an open mid range for a contested shot at the hoop. Saddiq passing up an open three for a contested shot at the hoop. Teams step up their defense in the second half and the Pistons just seem to roll over.

It's not fun to score 67 points in a half and be losing.

Something is happening with Cade. Almost like he is realizing how good he can be.

Nerlens Noel make actually play an important role on this team. We are desperate for some rim protection.

Maybe they are not staggering Ivey's minutes with Cade. He is out already again so they are probably just shortening his stints out on the court because he recovering from some bug.

I know Diallo was never really good but there was a time last year I thought he was a decent player who filled a niche role. He is just awful right now. Same for Killian. There are slow starts and then there are SLOW starts. It's almost hard to believe that those two guys could be as bad as they have.

I'll give Casey credit for one thing, he is staggering Ivey and Cade's minutes tonight. Something many on this board have been calling for.

This is exactly what you want to see from Cade and the best part is, knock on wood, he doesn't have a turnover. If you surround him with shooters, and a big who can finish, you have something. We don't have the big (at last not Stewart) and we don't have enough shooters. Diallo just missed a wide open three from the corner on a beautiful dish from Cade. A good shooter hits that 60% of the time when wide open. Diallo hits it maybe 15% of the time if we are lucky.

I love that Kelser just mentioned Cade and Derozan in the same sentence. I always thought Derozan was a good comp for Cade for at least how he can get buckets.

Nice start for Cade leaning on his mid range jump shot. He's got that little fadeaway going and needs to use that more often when he is struggling. Until Casey changes up his lineups, this defense is not going to get better and it's going to be extremely hard to win games because it puts so much pressure on the offense to score nearly every possession.

Ultimately, if Weaver watches this ship sink because of Casey, that is on him also. Casey may be the issue but Casey also has a boss who can fire him.

I have said next year is the breaking point for me with Weaver. At some point, we need to start seeing progress. Even if you say he's been unlucky, that is burden you carry in professional sports. One team gets Peyton Manning; the other team gets Ryan Leaf. Within enough time, it's easy to gain cap flexibility. Just wait out the bad contracts, which he has done. The hard part is spending and not ending up with contracts you don't want two years later.

Totally agree about Cade and Ivey. Cut Hayes out of the rotation. It's a pretty easy decision at this point. And it will be even easier when Burks comes back.

I really think the reason people love the Teal is Grant Hill. If he didn't play during that era, nobody would care about bringing it back. Because Grant Hill wore that color though, people are excited about it.

Both Livers and Bey are really good three point shooters. Hard to say who is better until we see more of a sample size. I think think Bey has a quicker release but Livers has improved a lot in that area as well. I do know Livers has more limitations than Bey outside of shooting. Livers can't put the ball on the floor at all. Bey can a little bit. That said, I think one of the biggest issues with Bey right now is he is putting the ball on the floor too much and not pulling the trigger when he is open from three. If Bey continues down that road, then Livers is the better option.

Huge letdown. Bogdanovic played awesome down the stretch but nobody else could do anything. Cade goes from looking looking like an all-star in the first half to scoring 4 points in the second half and having more turnovers than assists.

Saddiq throws up a wild shot and gets bailed out by a foul. That possession is a great example of why we are bad and why Casey is a terrible coach. That is what get on the most important possession of the game.

Cade did get hit with the body on that fast break. Frustrating but that is not going to get called very often when it is such a clean block up top.

Of course Stewart can't get a rebound on the most important possessions of the game. It's insanity to play him as the only big man against the other teams starters. He either needs to be a bench player or be playing next to another big guy in the starting lineup. We are give up third and fourth chance opportunities and that makes it extremely hard to win.

Man Bogdanovic really is fearless. I don't know why but I feel bad for him that he is on the Pistons.

The 7 turnovers are killer too. I think he is looking too pass too much again and that also leads to more turnovers. A lot of his turnovers seem to come off passes.

I love what I have seen out of Ivey in the very early going of this season but it's hard to not to wonder if part of the reason Bogdanovic and Cade are playing so well off each other tonight is because Ivey is not out there. It's probably a coincidence but there's a small chance it's not.

Bey is a better player than Livers but I do agree Bey is out of sync. He should be a catch and shoot guy but he doesn't seem to have the confidence for that.