tiger2022

It matters so much. David Ortiz...2 failed steroid tests...HOF. writers loved him. Barry Bonds...no chance of HOF. No one in their right mind would argue Ortiz is even close to the player that Bonds is.

Do you think the HOF should be where players are measured against their peers who played in the same general years? Or just everyone ever? As an example, Parrish would be competing more against guys like Fisk and Carter, etc. In that example and not guys like Perez or Posey.

I'm also thinking the expectations of the pitcher counting stats, namely wins is going to look a lot different. Kershaw might be the last guy to get to 200 wins. Especially with all the injuries and game and inning limits. There's only 3 guys under 200 wins that have at least 120. Cole and Sale might be the last guys to have a shot for quite a while. Skubal has 48 career wins at 28. i know wins doesnt carry the value as a pitcher stat as iti used to, but the number that stands out now might be 150.

I'm wondering if voters still have the Colorado player bias. It took Todd Helton 6 tries on the ballot to get in the HOF. I also feel that if Scott Rolen is the new benchmark, then Arenado, Goldschmidt, McCutchen should all be locks along with other HOF marginal guys.

He's on the 100% list in my post. For whatever reason I left Trout off it.

I forgot him on the list. He's 100%.

I was wondering what everyone's thoughts on this are. 100%- Freeman, Altuve, Machado, Harper, Betts, Perez, Lindor, Judge, Ohtani, Verlander, Scherzer, Kershaw. Not sure if there is much debate with those guys. I think there are arguments for the following: Jose Ramirez, McCutchen, Goldschmidt, Arenado, Boegarts, Stanton, Trea Turner, Correa, Bergman, Seager, Martel, Bellinger, Yelich, Sale, Cole, Nola, DeGrom Acuna, Devers, Soto, Riley all have excellent chances, although I view Devers and Vlad Jr as kind of similar to Cabrera in that they have so much natural talent but they don't even try to stay in shape. So they might end up sucking by 33 or 34 kind of like Cabrera. Any thoughts on any of the middle group of players?

I don't think the bullpen strategy is sustainable for an entire season. To start, the rotation was Skubal, Flaherty, Maeda, Olson, Mize with Manning in the wings. Next season, I believe the Tigers are bringing in starters, hopefully to go 5 or 6 innings per game.

Nothing more sad and embarrassing than a grown man calling a guy who carved out a successful career in mlb McStinky.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, but you do you.

I really don't think baseball fans give two bleeps about some pretentious, self-absorbed crappy singer.

Not sure why managers do that to young players...they immediately platoon guys so they never get a chance to hit against, in this case, lefties. It's almost like there is a rule and they have to do it or they just want to show everyone how smart they are. I doubt if Carpenter can hit any worse against lefties than Torkelson hits overall

I'm not surprised Foley hasn't been used since game 1 at Houston. There's zero reason for him to throw a pitch in a high leverage situation. He's a 3 run inning just waiting to happen

The schedule is very helpful to the Tigers. Play a game, a day off, play a game, a day off, play 2 games, a day off, and a final game. I'm assuming the Tigers are going with a one man rotation and then bullpen games. Wed and Thursday will be bullpen games. They have 11 pitchers for those two games so they should be all set and then if they have a game 5, Skubal can pitch on his 5th day.

The last call on Fry was atrocious

Rogers has been superb in the post season

Let's see it then.

Easily a catch How can anyone say it wasn't?

You can't win consistently with this garbage offense. They will need to add some kind of bat in the offseason

If it stays scoreless, eventually, Jason Foley will have to come into the game.

You must not have watched Victor Martinez or Miguel Cabrera at the end of their career.

It's not going to matter if the Tigers can't score off of Boyd. Once the Guardians get into the bullpen, double yikes.

I would hold out for Max Clark, Reese Olson, and Casey Mize for Aaron Judge, Juan Soto, and Gerrit Cole.

I also assume most organizations have some protocol in place where a trade needs to get approvals from the owner/ president, etc. So stupid stuff like what people propose in trade threads don't happen.

Gooden got derailed because of substance abuse. Porcello never was even remotely close to having the pitching skill that Gooden displayed. He stayed in the league because even high and drunk he was still better than nearly every one on the planet.