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This is the best hope - that a lot of people hearing the 'Biden is too old' drumbeat but haven't actually looked for themselves, begin to pay attention and see what we all can see - and old guy with a perfectly functional mind, and decide that's still a damn site better than anything they get with Trump. It also means that if Biden has the stamina to stay his course, then by voting time the issue will have been fully litigated, old news, off the table.

Of course we'd like better odds than that! I sort of go back and forth. One one hand, I think in this cycle, the campaign itself might be the least consequential in history as you would have to be living in a fallout shelter in Nepal not to have already made up your mind about Trump and Biden at this point. OTOH, the way we have seen turnout bounce up and down by 30 million votes in last few cycles, turn out will be again supper critical. So to go back to something Tater said - maybe it's not 'carrying the message about Trump' that's nearly as important as figuring out how to keep Dems from staying home - the two things may not be the same task.

His wife ❤️NY ?

One has to assume the reason that hasn't happened would have to be one of two reasons: 1)They still think there is starter potential there that can be unlocked (OK) 2) they think that even in shorter outings he can't generate the velo or K rate needed to be useful in leverage.(not so OK) What is disturbing is that he seems to be regressing in that he's looking mediocre against AAA pitching now. As already speculated, we can hope that's because he is trying to develop some new stuff, but it still would be nice to start seeing some results.

There would be fewer issues for Harris, but I go back to the premise that to me replacing Biden with Harris is kind of a pointless exercise. Anyone concerned with Biden becoming incapacitated is already either OK with Harris nor not, aren't they? And I think that is a key. I think most of the chattering class at this point don't want Harris, and there's the rub. And that's part of why this is to me a ridiculous exercise - all these people want 'something else' and until someone is willing to put a name out there and try to build a consensus around it, it's basically nonsense. It's like people wanting a baseball team to just dump a player they don't like when the team has no replacement identified (Tigers/Baez!). If you don't want Biden, don't be a gutless sniper (you in the corporate sense here Tater...) tell us who you are willing to support in his place and start putting together that structure. And why isn't anyone doing that? Because they know there is no candidate that can fill that spot that will bring enough of the party with them to win the election.

Prices were actually down this month. Has anybody heard the news?

True, but OTOH, the current pipeline doesn't have much promising pitching in it past Jobe unless we still believe in Manning and Madden. And we are seeing how fast normal attrition chews up pitching depth. After Jobe i'd take our three most promising guys as the hitters: Clark, McGonigle and Lee. That said, if they move a pitcher for a hitter I'd be OK with that as long as it's a real hitters and not a lotto ticket. One thing that may soften the deadline market is that the Dodgers, Phillies and Brewers might not be feeling much pressure to be active. We could help that by beating the Dodgers a few times!

Every executive acts through his staff. This argument only makes sense if you think someone other than Biden is picking his staff, is that your claim?

exactly. but if you won't spend money on players who perform you also never get anywhere. The two things do go hand in hand. It goes back to a more basic premise, which is that I am pretty well convinced that in the end, all trades are a wash in terms of total roster value. You occasionally pick a team's pocket, but you occasionally get yours picking in the end as well. Trades work for a team when they have value at positions they can't use - i.e. once they have already built a system that has some value to shift around. A team like the Tigers is just going to be giving away value to get similar value and it won't get them anywhere long term - unless their actual objective is just to keep payroll down forever - a la the A's

this. a point has to come where you are building for yourself and not everybody else. You win with players, not prospects.

Someone still has yet to explain 1) how do you qualify a candidate from out of the blue on 50 state ballots at this point. 2) the Biden campaign can't just drop their $250M on another candidate - where do they get funding?

Lakeland loses 8-3. McGonigle ( 1/5 ), Clark ( 0/5 ) return to earth a bit. Toledo shut out, Tork 0/4, 2K - no hard contact. ☹️

LOL - IDK - but certainly a much better one now that he has 120 PA at 805 OPS than it would have been if it had been offered on May 4 when his OPS was <500!

I guess no one has a good handle on how he got so cross wired at the beginning of the debate but there sure doesn't seem to be anything wrong with his mental acuity. He's an old guy and for sure he looks and moves worse than some of my acquaintances of the same age. And I'll even agree his body looks like it may not have another 5 yrs in it but whether or not he can win the election, the Dems will surely lose it if they try to force him out. If he decides he's willing to step down - maybe.

Doesn't particularly track with him scheduling additional interviews, but with the day's Tiger game already in the can I'll be all ears.

Who knew?

LOL - Donors footing a bill for NIL in college baseball must surely be a sign of the apocalypse upon us.

Kelly ranks 14th in wRC+ out of 34 catchers with >150PA at 104. Jake checks in at 28th (wRC+ = 79).

So I am now old enough to seen enough dementia up close that I think I have some level of perspective and here are some things I would say: -there only rule with dementia is that there are no rules. - the patient may understand exactly what is happening and be able to compensate for a long time, or the patient be the last to know and in fact sometimes never comes to awareness of their condition. - I believe Jill Biden is a strong, intelligent woman and I do not believe she would let her husband attempt to serve if he were failing. That said, for all we know she may already be engineering his exit as per Romads supposition, or the two of them may be plotting how to put this behind them - we don't know yet, but certainly will soon enough. - I would also say that your brain may slow down and your down days get tougher, your reaction to drugs and minor illness get more extreme, all without there being any impairment of judgement or dementia involved.

It's a whole different election logistics landscape. Biden will need a better answer than LBJ had.

What is missing in all the chattering class talk about replacing Biden is that the usual talk about 'brokered' conventions comes in the context of a primary campaign where the possible candidates were already contesting in the primaries and so had done the ground work to be eligible for the general should they get the nod at a convention outcome. Not the case here, you don't have any ballot qualified candidates. That's why so little of this talk is from sources that Logan Roy would consider 'serious people', because people who are serious have to think through issues like this and propose answers before running their mouths.

this is probably the most correct statement in several pages of this thread.

It's not necessarily a Scotus issue, in most states you have to have your nominating petitions in before the party convention.... Take a look https://ballotpedia.org/Deadline_to_run_for_president,_2024 Already past the filing deadline for independents in 10 states. There may be rules under which a party can replace a candidate - but you are going to get deeper into the weeds and probably end up in court.

This is all almost silly at this point. Biden is only stepping aside if he decides to, and if he make that decision, that's end of story. OTOH, if the debate was a blip and he stays in and fights it out, my guess is that in the end he will get credit for having more stamina than his critics and by election time the age issue will be in the rear view mirror.

Given the election logistics, that might not be the right move. If Biden really thinks he has to save the election by stepping aside, isn't now the wrong time? Can you even get anyone on all 50 state ballots? Maybe he goes to a podium - turns the campaign over to Harris and pledges to resign on Jan 21 after a Dem win and he and Harris are sworn in.