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I wonder whether the appearance of apathy among the voting age people we know reflects more the fact that the election is not right now, rather than the idea that they will never, ever, ever care. We’re still some ten months out from the election, which is forever away to most people, so Joe and Jane Average don’t have to think about any of it yet. But I would bet that once the election is next month or next week or something like that, that’s when the people who hadn’t been thinking about any of it will start to pay attention, and that’s when they will start to internalize the stark differences between Biden and Trump, the reminders of what Trump did in 2021 as well as during his presidency, the grave threat he poses to our freedoms, and how deeply unqualified he is to be President. They may not be paying attention to any of that now, because Trump doesn’t show up in their video games, or their Tik Tok dance feeds, or on the Golden Bachelor, or in their kitchens or gardens or true crime podcasts. (Well, maybe Trump should be showing up in that last one.) But a dollar to a dime says they’ll be paying attention to it by November 1. That’s why I don’t take January polls seriously. The sampling for those is among people who are paying attention all the time and who do care all the time. But they probably won’t make up even the majority of the people who cast votes for this election. That majority of voters just aren’t paying attention yet. But I don’t worry that they won’t be when the time comes.

I don't think so.

None of the young voters I know, including those voting for the first time, are voting for trump. Nobody I know who voted for Biden last time, or who didn't vote at all, are voting for Trump. I literally don't know anyone who is voting for Trump. Looks like we cancel each other out! 😄

I don't think that's going to happen come crunch time. If there's one emotion Trump does not generate, it's apathy.

Good thing they're not calling for the election to happen this Tuesday, then!

I do as well. I just can't see how Trump is going to convince all those people, especially independents, who are disgusted with him to vote for him. I just don't see how the numbers are going to work for him. Outside chance this could be the bloodbath wipeout for him I predicted in 2016.

I've uploaded 2014 through 2017 for you. I'll see whether I can locate any more.

I know, I was being silly.

How definitive can it be when they blur out the perp/victim?

Apologies ... she sounded very nice ...

Well, pretty sure it wasn't their kids, so they're gonna be fine.

"I was kidding."

Well, she sounds very nice ...

I don't think they really believe that, or more exactly, believe anything about it either way. I think they just like being contrarian so they can look like the person who knows something nobody else does.

We had a hundred million people watching the riot at the Capitol a mere three years ago, too, but that doesn't make any difference with red hats who deny that, either.

I think this has more to do with the increased acceptance of conspiracy media than people generally acknowledge. It was easy to dismiss double-spaced typewritten documents with spelling errors and cross-outs being held together with a staple in the corner. But as you say, everyone looks like ****ing CNN now.

Man, I've lost so many IQ points reading the last couple of pages.

Better yet, she may even claim First Amendment violation, which would be super rich coming from a sitting congressman whose very job description requires deep understanding of the Constitution.

The operative word is “anymore”.

lol “nobody wants to work anymore”. That is, he’s hitting on many of the things I railed about ten or so years ago on MTS.

It took me multiple tries to stick with it, because I don’t love unremittingly mean people with no redeeming qualities, but once I got past the characters themselves and focused on the jokes, I liked it a lot better.

We don’t know yet that Munch won’t end up being supernatural, but I do agree with you that it hasn’t become a factor with two episodes left, and for that, so far, I’m glad. Speaking of supernatural in TV or movies, the Crown: I’m on episode 6/4, after the crash in the Paris tunnel, and while both the Prince Charles and Queen Elizabeth and Mohamed Al-Fayed were alone ruminating about the recently-deceased, each had what looked like beyond-the-grave visits from the ghosts of Diana and Dodi, respectively. I never did like this trope in the first place because I think it’s lazy writing, although depending on the tone of the show or movie, I’ll allow some hallucination if it’s one-and-done, and if it’s clear by whatever the “dialogue” is that it’s being fabricated in their heads. Not my favorite thing, but meh … okay … However, in this case, each of the apparitions said something that only the deceased characters could have known or thought, suggesting they were actual visits from ghosts and not hallucinations, which, again, as writing goes, I regard to be a super lazy crutch. I understand the supernatural has been quite in for some time in Hollywood productions, but that doesn’t mean it’s always appropriate in every circumstance it’s used. It’s one thing to have the supernatural creeping into a fictional piece like Fargo, and I don’t love even that. But when they impose it on a scene from what’s supposed to be actual history, that is a bridge so far for me that I’m sorely tempted to just bail on whatever it is I’m watching. If either of them show up again to anyone else before the end, like Diana to William and/or Harry, I might just do that.

JL Partners seems to me like the kind of outfit that would simply make things up, or at least cook the books, to reach the conclusion they and their constituents want to put across. Releasing poll results without internals does nothing to dissuade from that idea. Citing that as proof of concept makes it seem like anything after that is coming out of your ear. Eric.

That last one seems exactly like what a drag queen would say. 😉

And I am avoiding Napoleon for the same reason: I had hoped it would be about his career.