Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just remember, the states that are passing anti abortion bills are states with Republican majorities. The state that are passing pro life bills are states with Democratic majorities. California and Massachusetts just passed safe haven laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 You seem to be countering someone arguing that the GOP will be more pro choice than the Democrats. If that's what Kacie's arguing I'll let her address that b/c I'm definitely not arguing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 I'm countering that Republicans are the ones who ended Roe and blaming Democrats is akin to she was asking for it. I'm also arguing that this circle firing squad on Democrats by Democrats will lead to Republicans taking over and further backsliding the US. The focus should be on getting Democrats elected in the states I mentioned who have been on record as supporting an end to the filibuster instead of attacking Democrats for what Republicans did to Roe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, pfife said: Aside from all of the ideological stuff..... and I love me some Nancy.... I rocked her as my avatar for many years on this forum. But I think the game is really passed her and schumer by. It really has. I respect the shit out of her, I think it's great to see that she got that bill passed but the job only includes that, it's not only that. This is like a multi-media PR hyperspeed job now and it really seems like the Democrats are severally outmanuevered on this front by the GOP all the time. I do think it's generational the Jan 6 hearings are the first time they've come close to being on the same level ETA: I think they had a fundamental assumption things would be "normal" after Trump and it's not and it's a different fight now and they're outmatched. hadn't she already promised to step down from the Speakership after last term? For a while it seemed she was at least putting some younger Reps out there as spokespeople but it seems like it's back to her and Hoyer. It is a bad look in terms of the party's wider appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, gehringer_2 said: hadn't she already promised to step down from the Speakership after last term? For a while it seemed she was at least putting some younger Reps out there as spokespeople but it seems like it's back to her and Hoyer. It is a bad look in terms of the party's wider appeal. I think she said this is her last term as speaker. I can't wait for a progressive to become speaker and come up with hit slogans such as defund the police and then blame Pelosi and Schumer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 the irony never ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 You argue there's a circular firing squad but you're in it with an AR-15 man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 I also don't see Pelosi getting credit for playing McCarthy and getting this J6 committee and two conservatives to serve on the committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: hadn't she already promised to step down from the Speakership after last term? For a while it seemed she was at least putting some younger Reps out there as spokespeople but it seems like it's back to her and Hoyer. It is a bad look in terms of the party's wider appeal. I think that promise has been made several times. TBF they keep electing her so its a caucus issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Yeah I'm the one with the AR15 when I still haven't gotten a straight answer on how Biden, Schumer and Pelosi are to blame for the Republicans overturning Roe. Best I got was Pelosi endorsing one representative and Biden making a comment of McConnell being reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) Here's where I gave auntie nancy credit for the Jan 6 hearings: Edited June 25, 2022 by pfife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I also don't see Pelosi getting credit for playing McCarthy and getting this J6 committee and two conservatives to serve on the committee. 2 minutes ago, pfife said: I think that promise has been made several times. TBF they keep electing her so its a caucus issue yeah - the 'problem' is that she still runs the best operation on the Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 she runs the best Democratic operation on the Hill. the best operation is obviously McConnell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 minute ago, pfife said: Here's where I gave auntie nancy credit for the Jan 6 hearings: You're right, I missed. Sorry, I don't read your posts very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Yeah I'm the one with the AR15 when I still haven't gotten a straight answer on how Biden, Schumer and Pelosi are to blame for the Republicans overturning Roe. Best I got was Pelosi endorsing one representative and Biden making a comment of McConnell being reasonable. No you're not to blame but you're in the firing squad with the rest of the firing squad and you fire a lot. I am as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, pfife said: she runs the best Democratic operation on the Hill. the best operation is obviously McConnell. fair enough - at least until the next verdict comes in Nov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, pfife said: No you're not to blame but you're in the firing squad with the rest of the firing squad and you fire a lot. I am as well. Who am I firing on? I'm the one here supporting Pelosi and Schumer and all the elected Democrats and Democrats running in toss up states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 Here's a very recent example: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 I think there's a difference between the operations Republicans run and Democrats run. What is the last piece of major legislation the Republicans passed? All the Republicans are for are judges and tax breaks. The Democrats are for passing actual legislation. It seems like we all forgot McConnell's failure in repealing Obamacare. I guess if you look at the operation as confirming judges and legislating from the bench because your ideas are so unpopular, I guess McConnell runs a better operation. It's also easier when your only base are white males vs Democrats who have to represent everyone else and different needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 minute ago, pfife said: Here's a very recent example: The firing squad I was referring to was against elected Democrats and not voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: The firing squad I was referring to was against elected Democrats and not voters. The firing squad we elected is representative of the firing squad we are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, pfife said: The firing squad we elected is representative of the firing squad we are Ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, pfife said: The firing squad we elected is representative of the firing squad we are 🤔 ✅ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: fair enough - at least until the next verdict comes in Nov. here's hoping the dems do better than all of the prognostications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Even this meathead gets it. All though I think adding seats to the Supreme Court will be more of an uphill battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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