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10/27/2023 7:00 EDT Detroit Pistons vs Charlotte Hornets


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2 hours ago, casimir said:

I question how successful this team can be with him in charge.  Maybe I shouldn't, maybe he's learned from his days of trying to be Drummond's pal and boss with too much emphasis on pal.

he puts in a lot of money and doesnt seem to try to influence decisions anymore.  but he used to and we'll see if he returns to his old ways.

he's also a complete douchebag, so there's that.

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Agree about Gores being a douchebag but don't think it's necessarily fair to call him a bad owner atleast as of this point. 

 I think maybe early on where the narrative was he was pushing for playoffs or bust at the sacrifice of our future you could question it but now he seems to be more hands off with the exception of the Monty hiring.

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This is a really interesting style of basketball the Pistons are playing.  Very little firepower on offense but a ton of effort on defense.  At least with the starting five. 

Killian has to be smarter on defense.  He's a good defender with a tendency to pick up cheap fouls.

We have to start protecting the ball better.  One easy way to help mitigate our lack of shooting is not to turn the ball over.  5 turnovers already halfway thru this first quarter.  

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The team is building a defensive and physical identity, you can see the roots of a good team down the line starting to grow. Too many turnovers, they need to clean that up.

Also, it needs to be said that the much maligned Isiah Stewart has been very good the first 2 games. If he keeps playing like this, he'll be worth that contract and then some.

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I don't want to over-react to Cade too much either way after these very different first two games.  We should know within the first couple weeks how much he has improved.  But I do think Ivey is a much more natural fit as the primary ball handler.  It's so much easier for Ivey to break down a defense.  And I think you are starting to see the culture of defense rub off on him.  

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33 minutes ago, Hart said:

I don't want to over-react to Cade too much either way after these very different first two games.  We should know within the first couple weeks how much he has improved.  But I do think Ivey is a much more natural fit as the primary ball handler.  It's so much easier for Ivey to break down a defense.  And I think you are starting to see the culture of defense rub off on him.  

they double team cade constantly, they never double team ivey.  if they single covered cade, he would be as successful as ivey.

and i like ivey!  i thought this was a much better game for him.  the question is whether ivey can handle the ball well enough  and defend well enough to be a second guard next to cade instead of killian.

i hope he can be because killian's lack of shooting ability hinders the offense with cade.

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37 minutes ago, Hart said:

I don't want to over-react to Cade too much either way after these very different first two games.  We should know within the first couple weeks how much he has improved.  But I do think Ivey is a much more natural fit as the primary ball handler.  It's so much easier for Ivey to break down a defense.  And I think you are starting to see the culture of defense rub off on him.  

Cade is a far better decision maker. He's a little loose with the ball at times but so is Ivey but as a floor general, I much MUCH prefer Cade to be the primary ball handler.

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What a fun game to be at!

 
Bottom line for me is this is a different team on defense from last year. The effort and physicality is so much higher. I’m seeing Stew and Duren make defensive plays and then celebrate and flex at the Pistons bench. Haven’t seen stuff like that since the Wallace days. Absolutely love it.

With the youth in this core, they’re still a few years from competing, but it’s good to see an identity finally being built.

Offense is a struggle at times, especially when Cade spends the game in foul trouble, but I love the attention to defense.

Obviously, turnovers are a problem, but we’re dealing with 5 guys under 22 in their second game in a new system. It’ll be ok.

Have to get Burks in the starting lineup for Killian. If you haven’t watched the Vecinie breakdown posted above, you should. They need that shooting threat and also a vet who can draw a foul and calm things down. 
 

Have to give Monty props. This looks like a different team so far. Also, I see him making in game lineup adjustments as opposed to just following a script. I have criticism here and there, but just seeing a coach try to make adjustments is refreshing. 

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7 hours ago, Betrayer said:

What a fun game to be at!

 
Bottom line for me is this is a different team on defense from last year. The effort and physicality is so much higher. I’m seeing Stew and Duren make defensive plays and then celebrate and flex at the Pistons bench. Haven’t seen stuff like that since the Wallace days. Absolutely love it.

With the youth in this core, they’re still a few years from competing, but it’s good to see an identity finally being built.

Offense is a struggle at times, especially when Cade spends the game in foul trouble, but I love the attention to defense.

Obviously, turnovers are a problem, but we’re dealing with 5 guys under 22 in their second game in a new system. It’ll be ok.

Have to get Burks in the starting lineup for Killian. If you haven’t watched the Vecinie breakdown posted above, you should. They need that shooting threat and also a vet who can draw a foul and calm things down. 
 

Have to give Monty props. This looks like a different team so far. Also, I see him making in game lineup adjustments as opposed to just following a script. I have criticism here and there, but just seeing a coach try to make adjustments is refreshing. 

Makes you wonder why Casey couldn't get even a fraction of this effort on defense.  It's definitely a culture change that permeates up and down the roster.  When you have your teammates busting their butt to stop the other team, it's pretty hard to be lazy and not try on defense.  We'll see how it long it lasts if we start losing a lot but I agree Monty deserves a lot of credit for getting us to this point.  

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9 hours ago, NYLion said:

Cade is a far better decision maker. He's a little loose with the ball at times but so is Ivey but as a floor general, I much MUCH prefer Cade to be the primary ball handler.

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Ivey and Cade have similar turnover rates 80 games into their career.  Both have turnover issues that need to get fixed.  But I think Ivey's path to improvement is easier than Cades because he is so athletic.  Time will tell.  I do believe Cade can provide a lot of value and be a very good player even if he is not the point guard.  

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