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6 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

The best part about this tweet that literally no one cares about is that you support the GOP Pedophile Protection Program

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6 minutes ago, pfife said:

The crazy part is that these emails aren't what the GOP pedophile protection program (supported by magaLLLic) is trying to keep private. 

Yeah, and today we learned that Pulte was working with the Kremlin to launder money in South Beach and that's just gravy. 

 

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19 hours ago, Edman85 said:

I think grains of salt need to be taken with any email from Epstein. He's not the most credible person.

I see your point, but the actions of the administration to try to silence to the highest degree possible disclosure of any information is naturally gonna add a level of credibility to a wider audience.

As we learned in Watergate, it's not the crime, it's the cover-up

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15 hours ago, pfife said:

This seems like a legit plan for the economy, more presidential speeches and travel. LOL

White House weighs stepped up domestic travel and speeches to improve Trump’s standing on the economy

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/12/politics/trump-economy-white-house-strategy

Yeah, they aren't gonna be able to jawbone their way into making everyone think prices are down... you'd think they would have learned something from the previous four years

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13 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I've often been skeptical off all the times Democratic politicians and activists, media pundits, and others have proclaimed that Trump is politically cooked. People think they always have this smoking gun of evidence or story that will bring Trump down. He has skated on things that would have brought down any other President in our nation's history. This one though, this one s bigger, more sinister, and more repulsive than all the rest. This one deals with the abuse of children and young girls. I think the email and information dumps only get worse from here. I think he is in too much trouble and the water level may rise over his head and finally sink him.

 

13 hours ago, ben9753 said:

I would agree with you, but if inciting a riot on the Capitol to try to halt the certification of an election had no consequences, I'm not confident this will hurt him. It may embarrass him, and we may hear some rumblings, but that will only last until his minions have received their talking points.

Tend to agree with Tater on this one, although there was never gonna be a "scales falling from eyes" moment here. Remember, even at the end of GWB's term, 1 out of 3 Americans still approved of him. That's the floor in American politics. (And there's at least one poll, AP/NORC, who has him at 36% right now, so he may be getting closer to it depending on who one talks to)

The bigger thing though is that the political implications shouldn't be what makes this newsworthy or not. I'm not even sure they matter all that much for Trump himself; he's 80 years old and in his second term. As many rumors swirl, he's not going to run again. Who the hell even knows what condition he's in physically or mentally a year from now, let alone in 2028.

What makes it newsworthy is that we deserve to know the truth of what happened. Not only with Trump, who obviously factors heavily into the Epstein story, but everyone else. Regardless of who they are and what party they belong to.

Trump is the biggest part of the story because he's President and it's unconscionable that we may have a pedo as President, but it's a story bigger than Trump, one of elite impunity; where elites (and yes, Holic, Trump IS an elite) get to play by one set of rules and the rest of us who follow the rules are punished.

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46 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Yeah, they aren't gonna be able to jawbone their way into making everyone think prices are down... you'd think they would have learned something from the previous four years

Its awesome that they're not concerned about improving the economy, just interested in improving trumps poll numbers on the economy 

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Massie's point about how will you answer the question in 2028 is a good one. I'm still suspicious that it will mean much though.  So far nobody has been able to slice through Trump's hold on the GOP.  Vance is a snake and I don't doubt he'd seize an opening if he saw one.  I'm not being contrarian... just been burned too many times.  Maybe a Dem house can impeach him again and Vance makes his move with GOP Senators to convict.  

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18 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

There are still going to be people who will dive on a live grenade for Trump. The question is, does this weaken Trump enough where some republicans start to distance themselves from him? 

For the remainder of his term, this is correct... The "scales falling from eyes" thing isn't going to happen, but it doesn't really need to happen. His loss of standing since becoming President is a good example of that.

Similar to GWB, if there is a "scales falling from eyes" moment, it's going to happen after he's gone or after he's dead

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