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2 hours ago, oblong said:

But remember, he is the way he is because he didn't agree with the way Kamala Harris got the nomination.  That was the tipping point.   Fascism because of a process disagreement.  Makes total sense.

I didn’t agree with the way Biden was thrown under the bus, but I for damn sure wasn’t going to run to Trump. 

Posted
1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said:

It's not surprising that the same folks defending the ICE shooting in Minnesota are the same folks who raised Ashley Babbitt to sainthood. 

Or the ones that said Chalrie Kirk had it coming.

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2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

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The federal government says that:

  • At roughly 2:00 p.m. local time on January 8, agents from the U.S. Border Patrol—a component of DHS’s Customs and Border Protection (CBP)—conducted a “targeted vehicle stop” of a red pickup truck.

  • This stop took place in a medical clinic parking lot near Adventist Health Portland, one of the city’s major hospitals.

  • The truck was driven by a man and the passenger was a woman.

  • The woman was “a Venezuelan illegal alien affiliated with the transnational Tren de Aragua prostitution ring.”

  • “When agents identified themselves to the vehicle occupants, the driver weaponized his vehicle and attempted to run over the law enforcement agents.”

  • “Fearing for his life and safety, an agent fired a defensive shot. The driver drove off with the passenger, fleeing the scene.”

That’s where the federal government’s portion of the story ends. It seems obvious, but I’ll say it anyway: None of this information has been corroborated and just this week the Department of Homeland Security has engaged in documented deception when describing the shooting of civilians.

Our scene continues with a report from the Portland Police Bureau, which is substantially more detailed.

  • At 2:18 p.m. PPB officers responded to a 911 call reporting shots fired at the hospital parking lot. They confirmed that federal agents were present and had fired a weapon.

  • At 2:24 p.m. PPB officers responded to a second 911 call from a man claiming he had been shot. This man was in a red pickup truck in the parking lot of an apartment complex eight miles from the location of the shooting report.

  • Upon arrival at the apartment complex, PPB found a man in the driver’s seat of the truck and a woman in the passenger seat. Both had apparent gunshot wounds.

  • Police applied a tourniquet to one of the victims (the report does not say which) and called EMS. The two victims were transported to a hospital for treatment.

 

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1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said:

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Some questions:

(1) Why did the CBP officers believe that the passenger in the vehicle was “a Venezuelan illegal alien affiliated with the transnational Tren de Aragua prostitution ring”?1

(2) What is the evidence that this woman is as DHS describes her?

(3) How did the CBP officers identify themselves? Were they wearing badges and in uniform?

(4) Where were the CBP officers standing relative to the truck? What direction did the truck move in? How fast was it moving? Why did the CBP agents have reasonable fear for their lives?

(5) The DHS account says a single shot was fired, which would suggest that it passed through one of the victims and then struck the other. If this is true, then the shot must have been fired from the side of the truck. Why would an officer next to the truck fear for his life? Did this truck have the ability to drive sideways?

(6) Why didn’t the CBP agents give chase to the suspects after the truck drove off?

(7) Did the on-scene CBP agents alert other members of law enforcement that they had fired on a suspect and that the suspect was fleeing, and request help in pursuit? If the suspect had indeed made a deadly assault on an officer by turning his vehicle into a weapon, then this would have required the response of all law enforcement in the area, would it have not? 

 

 

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Is it standard law enforcement practice to be playing on your phone when you in a perceived danger that requires you to instinctively discharge your weapon into the face of a person driving away?  I mean whenever I'm in fear for my life and safety the first thing I do is whip out my phone.

Posted
1 minute ago, oblong said:

Is it standard law enforcement practice to be playing on your phone when you in a perceived danger that requires you to instinctively discharge your weapon into the face of a person driving away?  I mean whenever I'm in fear for my life and safety the first thing I do is whip out my phone.

I was thinking this seemed strange too. Is this standard protocol? Did he know something bad was going to happen?

Posted
4 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

I was thinking this seemed strange too. Is this standard protocol? Did he know something bad was going to happen?

I'm guessing they like to collect video of people who are known agitators in case it's needed to build a case if things rise to the level of arresting someone.  Of course they could prevent having to use cell phones if they wore body cams.  

Posted
14 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

 

Lets be fair here, she was saying that while blocking the road and her partner was outside the vehicle filming and antagonizing.  I still think the shooting wasn't justified but it's very clear from this video that the narrative about her being scared and just being there because she had dropped her kids off is nonsense.  They were clearly there to impede and antagonize law enforcement and planned on continuing to do so. 

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1 minute ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The left narrative just got toasted with that video. 

The narrative from the right that he was hit still hasn't been proven even though we have like 6 different videos of this.  So basically you're saying you're okay with the police executing someone because they're being annoying. 

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I guess I'm unclear as to what part of that video is exculpatory of the state here.... if anything, it's only going to make things worse to their case, at least in terms of how the general public views what happened.

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