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2 hours ago, romad1 said:

So, to clarify...my wife thought WCF was the CEO, not me.  I knew the CEO was Jim Farley.  Jim Farley who constantly is preaching to his company about the threat from BYD and thinks EVs are a future path.  Whatever WCF thinks is relevant but Farley is likely not the person calling the WH and the POS POTUS about wanting to destroy the planet. 

For his life up till now, WCF is the most greeny of all the major car people. IIRC he was the fist one to embrace Obama/Biden policies for carbon control and I think Ford was the only US builder not to oppose the last set of CAFE increases prior to Trump. From what I have gleaned locally, Ford's long term focus is still EV even if the Lightning was an overreach for the current state of play. Ford's manufacturing issues have them in a wounded state right now and you have to imagine they would most like not to be pulled into the political spotlight at all. Trump probably knows that full well and is trying to leverage it.

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6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

For his life up till now, WCF is the most greeny of all the major car people. IIRC he was the fist one to embrace Obama/Biden policies for carbon control and I think Ford was the only US builder not to oppose the last set of CAFE increases prior to Trump. From what I have gleaned locally, Ford's long term focus is still EV even if the Lightning was an overreach for the current state of play. Ford's manufacturing issues have them in a wounded state right now and you have to imagine they would most like not to be pulled into the political spotlight at all. Trump probably knows that full well and is trying to leverage it.

Optics.  Like Gretchen Whitmer's need to salvage Selfridge (see that alliteration?) , it puts the local pol in the untenable posture of having to reach out to the monster to avoid being the next one it eats. 

I still think Ford should have politely declined the visit.   And good on the local Ford employee who gave POTUS what he deserved. 

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6 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

What did someone here say recently about free speech and "LIBS". 

Pretzel are all he can eat because of how twisty they are. 

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2 hours ago, chasfh said:

How presidential of him. 😑

Fine Print:  Presidential behavior only applies to women and visible minorities.  White men can say whatever they want without it being a multi-day news story, with the simple explanation of 'owning the Libs'

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53 minutes ago, romad1 said:

A less facacta legislative branch would be asking that question. 

This is why we are in so much more trouble that just electing an malevolent man-child as president, we also voted hard for his enablers. Voters get what they deserve generally. Unfortunately that leaves the other 250 million to suffer the collateral damage.

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3 hours ago, chasfh said:

We are maybe weeks away from seeing agents punching and stomping people they pull out of cars into unconsciousness or death, and also, ripping cameras and phones from nearby people, smashing them, and beating those people to a bloody pulp, too.

The biggest danger is that we simply get used to seeing it and then just tune it out. Then it’ll just be Katie bar the door.

We needed to have an unregulated flow of guns and ammo — to the point of countenancing multiple mass shootings of schoolchildren — in order to “protect ourselves against gummint tyranny”. 
 

And yet…

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1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

What did someone here say recently about free speech and "LIBS". 

In a workplace you are held to the workplace standards...... I could only imagine what would happen to me walking through my office in Dearborn and yelling something like that to a Ford guest. I am not even a Ford employee lol. You can't be serious.

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3 hours ago, chasfh said:

We are maybe weeks away from seeing agents punching and stomping people they pull out of cars into unconsciousness or death, and also, ripping cameras and phones from nearby people, smashing them, and beating those people to a bloody pulp, too.

The biggest danger is that we simply get used to seeing it and then just tune it out. Then it’ll just be Katie bar the door.

Don't worry.  We've got our "well regulated militia" standing by to fight tyranny.  Right?

That's what they promised.

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