Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

Job cuts help the economy, and it's not a crime to party with Jeffrey Epstein.

[Motown Bombers]

7 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I hate the Gerrymandering wars we are in right now. Gerrymandering was a problem before Trump got into office and needed to be reformed. Now, thanks to this clown, the problems are only getting worse. I get what Virginia Dems did and that had to do it given the current environment we are in. I'm glad it is 10-1 in favor of Dems now. I just think we desperately need national reform on Gerrymandering. Only Dems seem to be interested in that though.

15 years ago blue states like California in good faith set up independent redistricting commissions. Not a single red state did. Democrats cannot unilaterally disarm themselves. Republicans have shot down all attempts at nationwide redistricting commissions. Democrats can't stop here. I'm looking at you New York. If Republicans want a ceasefire, than pass a nationwide redistricting bill. 

[chasfh]

I get what Mister Salad means. We can bemoan having to do it even as we do it, exactly because it's terrible but we can't unilaterally disarm in the face of it.

[CMRivdogs]

I'm starting to lean in favor of multi member districts. Over simplified divide the individual states into 3, 4, 5 districts depending on size and then vote multiple members. Much like the college board of trustee elections or Supreme Court elections in Michigan. If a state is divided 60-40 demographically, the reps in that state should probably fall that way as well

It's not going to happen but our current system as it stands sucks

[Tigeraholic1]

33 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I hate the Gerrymandering wars we are in right now. Gerrymandering was a problem before Trump got into office and needed to be reformed. Now, thanks to this clown, the problems are only getting worse. I get what Virginia Dems did and that had to do it given the current environment we are in. I'm glad it is 10-1 in favor of Dems now. I just think we desperately need national reform on Gerrymandering. Only Dems seem to be interested in that though.

Dems are now leading the Gerrmandering charge. Dems: "We need to stop this Gerrymandrering once we are done changing all the maps in states we control." They are interested, thats for sure. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Tigeraholic1

[chasfh]

Never stop not making sense.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[guy incognito]

9 hours ago, oblong said:

Why won't Repubs [haul in

all the persons named in the Epstein files]?

 

They’re cowed?

They’re complicit?

They have no choice but to hope they can somehow stick things out just long enough for the fully-fascist country they’ve spent more than five decades working towards to come to fruition?

Edited 6 hours ago by guy incognito

[pfife]

3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

The biggest flaw in your argument is that the readers werent born yesterday

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Never stop not making sense.

Gerrymandering for me but not for thee.

[pfife]

Yep.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Dems are now leading the Gerrmandering charge. Dems: "We need to stop this Gerrymandrering once we are done changing all the maps in states we control." They are interested, thats for sure. 

Democrats have lead the charge and been the only political party leading the charge to have nationwide Gerrymandering reform and have maps that are fairly drawn, more neutral, and nonpartisan in nature. Republicans by in large have not gotten behind any sort of Gerrymandering reforms, nor have they supported the idea that maps should be neutral and not be partisan. In-fact, it has been just the opposite. Trump directed Republicans states to make maps even more partisan this cycle. So one party, Democrats, has been leading efforts and introducing legislation to have congressional and state legislative maps drawn fairly. The other party, Republicans, has opposed almost all efforts at federal and state levels to have fair, nonpartisan maps drawn.

[gehringer_2]

4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

15 years ago blue states like California in good faith set up independent redistricting commissions. Not a single red state did. Democrats cannot unilaterally disarm themselves. Republicans have shot down all attempts at nationwide redistricting commissions. Democrats can't stop here. I'm looking at you New York. If Republicans want a ceasefire, than pass a nationwide redistricting bill. 

Where does the Federal gov get the authority to pass a redistricting bill? Plus this SC would invalidate it.  I'm afraid the best solution is a Supreme Court that will outlaw both Gerrymanders and overturn CU. The next Dem admin must increase the numbers on the court to make the current Conservative axis irrelevant. It's a terrible solution but probably still better than any other.

[gehringer_2]

41 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Gerrymandering for me but not for thee.

Basic game theory. When your opponent won't play fair you may absorb the 1st hit. After that the optimal stratagem is to hammer back harder to show them their decision was counter-productive. It's just being practical.

[Motown Bombers]

How dare Democrats respond to republicans unprecedented mid cycle redistricting. 

[oblong]

Typical reaction by cowards. They start a fight and cry like a bitch when you hit back.  Just like the “tread on me” crowd.  

[pfife]

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

Job cuts help the economy, and it's not a crime to party with Jeffrey Epstein.

Building on that 'worst jobs president since hoover' thing he started in 2016

[Tigeraholic1]

On 2/3/2026 at 4:28 PM, gehringer_2 said:

look again.

if that hand looks white to you, you spend a lot of time in places a lot sunnier than MN. 

 

[pfife]

Lol

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

Basic game theory. When your opponent won't play fair you may absorb the 1st hit. After that the optimal stratagem is to hammer back harder to show them their decision was counter-productive. It's just being practical.

My point being Tater said the dems were leading the charge to end Gerrymandering by… More Gerrymandering. Also note dead red Indiana chose not to play these reindeer games.

[pfife]

Lol

[pfife]

I bet that guy in the video is either ai or a paid right wing crisis actor

[pfife]

Of course the board jabroni fails to mention that dead red trump was pushing indiana to gerrymander and the folks that didn't go for it got death threats from dead red trumpers

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]