Jump to content

Trumps Presidency 2025

Tigeraholic1

By Tigeraholic1
in Politics

 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 17.7k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Motown Bombers

    1809

  • romad1

    1737

  • chasfh

    1727

  • CMRivdogs

    1661

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Hongbit
Hongbit

He wasn’t talking about you.   He said self respecting vets. 

CMRivdogs
CMRivdogs
CMRivdogs
CMRivdogs

All these cardinals are total losers. One of them, a big burly man with tears in his eyes, came to me the other day and said sir, you should be pope. You’d be the best pope, because popes until now ha

Posted Images

Sports_Freak Grand Master

Sports_Freak

Posted
Posted

Remember how MAGA and Independents voted Trump because he was supposed to be better for the economy? And how he would bring world peace? Maybe it was just more Trump lies? We should have known. (Many people did, we were all warned)

guy incognito Mentor

guy incognito

Posted
Posted
51 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Remember how MAGA and Independents voted Trump because he was supposed to be better for the economy? And how he would bring world peace? Maybe it was just more Trump lies? We should have known. (Many people did, we were all warned)

It’s just possible that some of his voters lied about what they were actually voting for.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 2
Sports_Freak Grand Master

Sports_Freak

Posted
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, guy incognito said:

It’s just possible that some of his voters lied about what they were actually voting for.

Over here in the Detroit area,there was a huge Arab crowd who refused to vote for Harris because they thought they were supporting Palestine. Wow, did they screw up...

"Others acknowledge Harris’s efforts but add that it is not enough to win over Arab American and Muslim voters angry with the U.S. support for the Israeli government."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4917055-harris-arab-american-muslim-voters-concerns/

Edited by Sports_Freak
chasfh Grand Master

chasfh

Posted
Posted
12 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

From what I remember about the cab/limo drivers (esp cabbies) back in the PreMaga Days. It's not surprising...

 

A prime example of Trump telling us, right under our noses, exactly what he planned to do and we were not quite sophisticated enough at the time to see it that way.

  • Like 1
mtutiger Grand Master

mtutiger

Posted
Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, romad1 said:

When you have record turnout like that...you have to think its can't be good for Orban.  If he tries to stay, he will be thrown out by the mob. 

It was being discussed in the World Politics thread because it applies more over there, but I do think we need to think a little bit about the rhetoric leading up to this campaign and all of the fears that people had (not unfounded fwiw) about what Orban would do if he lost, or how he would steal the election, or how they would throw out votes, you name it. 

The election came, Fidesz got their asses kicked, and Orban and went out there and whined and cried but, in the end, conceded. The fears, legitimate as they may have been, did not come to pass.

To be clear, I know there are differences. The biggest one being that Orban is a rational actor and Trump is not..., but there's a lesson here in that we all have anxiety about what the President or Republicans in Congress will do in the event that they lose in the Midterms. We create wild scenarios in our heads. Some realistic, and some less so.... but that fear and anxiety does not help, it only paralyzes. That's what Peter Magyar and the Hungarian opposition taught us today. People need to stiffen their spines and be vigilant, but not constantly in fear and not treating Trump like he's a force of nature that can't be reckoned with. And that politics are over and do not matter (they clearly did in Hungary under a much more consolidated authoritarian system). And, as I've paraphrased Ulysses Grant many times saying, we all gotta stop worrying about what *they* are gonna do and start thinking more about what *we* are going to do.

Edited by mtutiger
  • Like 1
romad1 Grand Master

romad1

Posted
Posted
11 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

It was being discussed in the World Politics thread because it applies more over there, but I do think we need to think a little bit about the rhetoric leading up to this campaign and all of the fears that people had (not unfounded fwiw) about what Orban would do if he lost, or how he would steal the election, or how they would throw out votes, you name it. 

The election came, Fidesz got their asses kicked, and Orban and went out there and whined and cried but, in the end, conceded. The fears, legitimate as they may have been, did not come to pass.

To be clear, I know there are differences. The biggest one being that Orban is a rational actor and Trump is not..., but there's a lesson here in that we all have anxiety about what the President or Republicans in Congress will do in the event that they lose in the Midterms. We create wild scenarios in our heads. Some realistic, and some less so.... but that fear and anxiety does not help, it only paralyzes. That's what Peter Magyar and the Hungarian opposition taught us today. People need to stiffen their spines and be vigilant, but not constantly in fear and not treating Trump like he's a force of nature that can't be reckoned with. And that politics are over and do not matter (they clearly did in Hungary under a much more consolidated authoritarian system). And, as I've paraphrased Ulysses Grant many times saying, we all gotta stop worrying about what *they* are gonna do and start thinking more about what *we* are going to do.

Jan 6 happened.   Trump is actively trying to nationalize the elections.   I think we have ample reason to fear he will do illegal things to stay in power.   

I agree taking stock of our fears is counter productive sometimes but risk assessment both negative risk (the crap that can go wrong) and positive risk (the risk of what you give up if you do not act) must be assessed equally.  

mtutiger Grand Master

mtutiger

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Jan 6 happened.   Trump is actively trying to nationalize the elections.   I think we have ample reason to fear he will do illegal things to stay in power.   

I agree taking stock of our fears is counter productive sometimes but risk assessment both negative risk (the crap that can go wrong) and positive risk (the risk of what you give up if you do not act) must be assessed equally.  

Certainly think we need to be vigilant, but whatever the risks are, I think the fear and anxiety that I see from a lot of corners is frankly counterproductive to actually going out and winning the election before us. 

Would just add as well that given how elections are run and administered in this country (ie. basically thousands of individual elections spread across 50 states), it's not clear to me how exactly they can be "nationalized". Obviously understand the changes they are proposing with the SAVE Act and oppose them, but the federal government isn't going to administer elections in every municipality in America 

gehringer_2 Grand Master

gehringer_2

Posted
Posted
9 minutes ago, guy incognito said:

Having a normal one

 

IMG_7842.jpeg

Don't be fooled. it's actually Trump sucking the life force out of another of his poor supporters to keep his rotted corpse from decomposing on the spot.

  • Like 1

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...