Trumps Presidency 2025

[gehringer_2]

13 minutes ago, romad1 said:

 

I'd love to know Maxwell's real story. She was in the middle of everything with Epstein and Brunel.

[romad1]

39 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I'd love to know Maxwell's real story. She was in the middle of everything with Epstein and Brunel.

Goes back to her father. 

[CMRivdogs]

From what I remember about the cab/limo drivers (esp cabbies) back in the PreMaga Days. It's not surprising...

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[Sports_Freak]

Remember how MAGA and Independents voted Trump because he was supposed to be better for the economy? And how he would bring world peace? Maybe it was just more Trump lies? We should have known. (Many people did, we were all warned)

[guy incognito]

51 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Remember how MAGA and Independents voted Trump because he was supposed to be better for the economy? And how he would bring world peace? Maybe it was just more Trump lies? We should have known. (Many people did, we were all warned)

It’s just possible that some of his voters lied about what they were actually voting for.

[Sports_Freak]

4 hours ago, guy incognito said:

It’s just possible that some of his voters lied about what they were actually voting for.

Over here in the Detroit area,there was a huge Arab crowd who refused to vote for Harris because they thought they were supporting Palestine. Wow, did they screw up...

"Others acknowledge Harris’s efforts but add that it is not enough to win over Arab American and Muslim voters angry with the U.S. support for the Israeli government."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4917055-harris-arab-american-muslim-voters-concerns/

Edited 19 hours ago by Sports_Freak

[oblong]

[romad1]

8 minutes ago, oblong said:

Stole that

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

From what I remember about the cab/limo drivers (esp cabbies) back in the PreMaga Days. It's not surprising...

 

A prime example of Trump telling us, right under our noses, exactly what he planned to do and we were not quite sophisticated enough at the time to see it that way.

[romad1]

https://english.elpais.com/usa/2026-04-12/amanda-ungaro-from-sharing-soirees-with-the-trumps-to-being-deported-by-ice.html

This is something. 

[romad1]

How do we know its something...

Julie K. Brown is the person who knows more than anyone not on the inside...

[Sports_Freak]

9 minutes ago, romad1 said:

https://english.elpais.com/usa/2026-04-12/amanda-ungaro-from-sharing-soirees-with-the-trumps-to-being-deported-by-ice.html

This is something. 

Wow! This really is eye opening. Deported and held to lose custody of her child. Cruelty.....MAGA cruelty...

[oblong]

Has Melania ever spoken during the 5 plus years the idiot was president?

[romad1]

FINGERS CROSSED!!!

https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-2026-election-high-voter-turnout-viktor-orban-peter-magyar/

[romad1]

When you have record turnout like that...you have to think its can't be good for Orban.  If he tries to stay, he will be thrown out by the mob. 

[romad1]

 

[Sports_Freak]

[Motown Bombers]

 

[mtutiger]

10 hours ago, romad1 said:

When you have record turnout like that...you have to think its can't be good for Orban.  If he tries to stay, he will be thrown out by the mob. 

It was being discussed in the World Politics thread because it applies more over there, but I do think we need to think a little bit about the rhetoric leading up to this campaign and all of the fears that people had (not unfounded fwiw) about what Orban would do if he lost, or how he would steal the election, or how they would throw out votes, you name it. 

The election came, Fidesz got their asses kicked, and Orban and went out there and whined and cried but, in the end, conceded. The fears, legitimate as they may have been, did not come to pass.

To be clear, I know there are differences. The biggest one being that Orban is a rational actor and Trump is not..., but there's a lesson here in that we all have anxiety about what the President or Republicans in Congress will do in the event that they lose in the Midterms. We create wild scenarios in our heads. Some realistic, and some less so.... but that fear and anxiety does not help, it only paralyzes. That's what Peter Magyar and the Hungarian opposition taught us today. People need to stiffen their spines and be vigilant, but not constantly in fear and not treating Trump like he's a force of nature that can't be reckoned with. And that politics are over and do not matter (they clearly did in Hungary under a much more consolidated authoritarian system). And, as I've paraphrased Ulysses Grant many times saying, we all gotta stop worrying about what *they* are gonna do and start thinking more about what *we* are going to do.

Edited 1 hour ago by mtutiger

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

You go Donnie! 

[romad1]

11 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

It was being discussed in the World Politics thread because it applies more over there, but I do think we need to think a little bit about the rhetoric leading up to this campaign and all of the fears that people had (not unfounded fwiw) about what Orban would do if he lost, or how he would steal the election, or how they would throw out votes, you name it. 

The election came, Fidesz got their asses kicked, and Orban and went out there and whined and cried but, in the end, conceded. The fears, legitimate as they may have been, did not come to pass.

To be clear, I know there are differences. The biggest one being that Orban is a rational actor and Trump is not..., but there's a lesson here in that we all have anxiety about what the President or Republicans in Congress will do in the event that they lose in the Midterms. We create wild scenarios in our heads. Some realistic, and some less so.... but that fear and anxiety does not help, it only paralyzes. That's what Peter Magyar and the Hungarian opposition taught us today. People need to stiffen their spines and be vigilant, but not constantly in fear and not treating Trump like he's a force of nature that can't be reckoned with. And that politics are over and do not matter (they clearly did in Hungary under a much more consolidated authoritarian system). And, as I've paraphrased Ulysses Grant many times saying, we all gotta stop worrying about what *they* are gonna do and start thinking more about what *we* are going to do.

Jan 6 happened.   Trump is actively trying to nationalize the elections.   I think we have ample reason to fear he will do illegal things to stay in power.   

I agree taking stock of our fears is counter productive sometimes but risk assessment both negative risk (the crap that can go wrong) and positive risk (the risk of what you give up if you do not act) must be assessed equally.  

[mtutiger]

3 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Jan 6 happened.   Trump is actively trying to nationalize the elections.   I think we have ample reason to fear he will do illegal things to stay in power.   

I agree taking stock of our fears is counter productive sometimes but risk assessment both negative risk (the crap that can go wrong) and positive risk (the risk of what you give up if you do not act) must be assessed equally.  

Certainly think we need to be vigilant, but whatever the risks are, I think the fear and anxiety that I see from a lot of corners is frankly counterproductive to actually going out and winning the election before us. 

Would just add as well that given how elections are run and administered in this country (ie. basically thousands of individual elections spread across 50 states), it's not clear to me how exactly they can be "nationalized". Obviously understand the changes they are proposing with the SAVE Act and oppose them, but the federal government isn't going to administer elections in every municipality in America 

[guy incognito]

Having a normal one

 

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, guy incognito said:

Having a normal one

 

Offensive on so many levels... so many levels

[gehringer_2]

9 minutes ago, guy incognito said:

Having a normal one

 

Don't be fooled. it's actually Trump sucking the life force out of another of his poor supporters to keep his rotted corpse from decomposing on the spot.