Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I think they are mutually exclusive states by definition, altough they he could know what he's doing sometimes and be unhinged at other times.  I think he knows what he is a doing at a general level, but gets frustrated by strategic details and has hissy fits when things don't go according to his plan.  

At any rate, he has always come acros as a very unimpressive person to me and it makes me sad/frustrated to see the entire country revolving around his shallow immature whims.  

 

No, "being unhinged" and "knowing what you're doing" are not mutually exclusive by necessity. "Unhinged" typically means acting wildly, unpredictably, or outside social norms, e.g., impulsive rants, bold risks, or chaotic energy. "Knowing what you're doing" implies competence, awareness, and deliberate control over your actions. Trump exhibits both.

You're going to focus on the "competence" part. Trump is not anything like competent when it comes to managing the economy, for example. A president absolutely should be competent when it comes to managing the economy. On that, we can agree. The breakdown occurs when we contemplate the difference between "should be" and "is". I would counter that managing the economy is not even his goal. Trump does not care about the economy. He cares about his own aggrandizement, control of others, and personal enrichment. He is very competent when it comes achieving those goals, and the economy is merely a tool in the service of those goals.

This line of logic may enrage you. Certainly defensible. I don't like it, either. But just because he is incompetent in something that is traditionally important for presidents but that he cares hardly a whit about, it does not follow that he must by definition be incompetent in everything else, and in every way imaginable.

Trump is unhinged. Trump also knows exactly what he is doing. It's simply bad luck that that which he knows exactly what he's doing is in an area that doesn't help the American people, or the rest of the world.

[Tiger337]

16 minutes ago, chasfh said:

No, "being unhinged" and "knowing what you're doing" are not mutually exclusive by necessity. "Unhinged" typically means acting wildly, unpredictably, or outside social norms, e.g., impulsive rants, bold risks, or chaotic energy. "Knowing what you're doing" implies competence, awareness, and deliberate control over your actions. Trump exhibits both.

You're going to focus on the "competence" part. Trump is not anything like competent when it comes to managing the economy, for example. A president absolutely should be competent when it comes to managing the economy. On that, we can agree. The breakdown occurs when we contemplate the difference between "should be" and "is". I would counter that managing the economy is not even his goal. Trump does not care about the economy. He cares about his own aggrandizement, control of others, and personal enrichment. He is very competent when it comes achieving those goals, and the economy is merely a tool in the service of those goals.

This line of logic may enrage you. Certainly defensible. I don't like it, either. But just because he is incompetent in something that is traditionally important for presidents but that he cares hardly a whit about, it does not follow that he must by definition be incompetent in everything else, and in every way imaginable.

Trump is unhinged. Trump also knows exactly what he is doing. It's simply bad luck that that which he knows exactly what he's doing is in an area that doesn't help the American people, or the rest of the world.

I am not enraged.  I am just not impressed by anything he does.  He is competent at bull**** and self promotion and manipulating people, especially ignorant and weak people.  

[Motown Bombers]

Everyone who bought one deserved to lose their money. 

 

[smr-nj]

11 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I am not enraged.    

Well, I’m quite possibly enraged enough to cover your “non-enragement”, and at least that of 100 more.

 

[Tiger337]

14 minutes ago, smr-nj said:

Well, I’m quite possibly enraged enough to cover your “non-enragement”, and at least that of 100 more.

 

I am enraged by Trump.  I am not enraged by Chas's line of logic.    

[LaceyLou]

4 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

I'd like to have one of the 1 out of 3 who feel the reasons for the war have been fully explained, to explain it to me-like I'm a four year old.

[guy incognito]

Uncommon[ly Stolen] Valor.

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, guy incognito said:

Uncommon[ly Stolen] Valor.

I think he's finally gotten so besotted that he's starting to cross lines with real costs. The Jesus pic, and not\w this. There isn't much that GIs hate more than this kind of thing. 

[CMRivdogs]

He's made it trashier...

 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, LaceyLou said:

I'd like to have one of the 1 out of 3 who feel the reasons for the war have been fully explained, to explain it to me-like I'm a four year old.

Peace through strength seems to be the favorite line.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

He's made it trashier...

 

Apparently Real Estate Tycoon Trump has never had to take care of an old building. Old buildings are always falling apart a little bit here and there. You fix this, you fix that, you don't bulldoze a wing because it needs to be spackled.

Edited 11 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

 

[romad1]

8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

He's just got this huge pile of whatever substance (adderal?) in front of him and his sister just eloped with his friend...he's got troubles because Sosa is angry he failed to kill the guy who testified at the UN.  

Or, 

He's got this cocktail of drugs administered to him in the bunker by his doctor to keep him going, and his field marshals keep telling him the war is going badly and so he needs to rail about his old political adversaries. 

Or, 

[insert some Hunter S. Thompson-esq ref to Nixon in the final days of Aug 1974]

He's got nothing left to gild, destroy, or to make shabbier so he's got to go against Obama. 

[chasfh]

13 hours ago, LaceyLou said:

I'd like to have one of the 1 out of 3 who feel the reasons for the war have been fully explained, to explain it to me-like I'm a four year old.

You’re close—more like, they’ll explain it to you like they’re a four-year-old. 

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

I think he's finally gotten so besotted that he's starting to cross lines with real costs. The Jesus pic, and not\w this. There isn't much that GIs hate more than this kind of thing. 

And yet I’d bet money the vast majority of MAGA veterans will either give him a pass on it, or fully embrace this as a respectful gesture of support. Or am I wrong, @Tigeraholic1?

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Apparently Real Estate Tycoon Trump has never had to take care of an old building. Old buildings are always falling apart a little bit here and there. You fix this, you fix that, you don't bulldoze a wing because it needs to be spackled.

Correct—I don’t. And you don’t.