Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

On 5/5/2025 at 10:17 AM, romad1 said:

The thing keeping him from running again (unconstitutionally) in 2028 is the idea that Obama would run and destroy him.   And I for one never voted for Obama but would push this narrative so the orange fool would back away from his native cowardice. 

This one is easy: if Trump "runs" for a third term and wins, he stays in office Putin-style, and no one can say **** to stop it; and if Obama runs for a third term against him and wins, the Trump government will refuse to vacate because they'll claim Obama's victory violates the Constitution, every single constitutional scholar and jurist will agree, an actual constitutional crisis will ensue, Trump stays in office Putin-style, and no one can say **** to stop it.

[romad1]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

This one is easy: if Trump "runs" for a third term and wins, he stays in office Putin-style, and no one can say **** to stop it; and if Obama runs for a third term against him and wins, the Trump government will refuse to vacate because they'll claim Obama's victory violates the Constitution, every single constitutional scholar and jurist will agree, an actual constitutional crisis will ensue, Trump stays in office Putin-style, and no one can say **** to stop it.

They wouldn't be on the ballot unless they cleared the constitutional hurdle before hand.  Now you tell me that Trump can't lose no matter what..i'm not going to accept that.  

[chasfh]

21 hours ago, romad1 said:

I had an alcatraz tour last summer.  It didn't impress me as a place where you could put as many inmates as Trump would want to.  Supermax has a better warehousing for inmates capability.  

 

I see per a quick google that the correct name for this federal supermax facility is ADX Florence in Florence, Colorado. 

He wants this only because he thinks it is maximally cruel.

[chasfh]

20 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

If anyone at DOGE actually knew what they were doing, they could tell DJT that running a prison on an island is a very big waste of money - which is why it's not a prison anymore.

If DOGE were truly concerned about big wastes of money, they could tell DJT that running a prison on an island is exactly one of those.

[chasfh]

20 hours ago, The Ronz said:

You are correct but.....

340 million people in America.

77 million did vote for it.

90 million did not vote against it.

73 million are not eligible to vote (under 18, incarcerated, not a citizen, etc.)

77 + 90 + 73 = 240 / 340 = 70.5%

I guess I was off by 4.5%. 😁

 

The flaw in this logic is the assumption that 100% of people who did not vote plus100% of people ineligible to vote want what we are currently getting.

[chasfh]

19 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

I also want to know how he squares the fact that since 2016, Democrats have over performed every election when it is not head to head with Trump. Democrats won down ballot in five swing states Trump won. It is a cult of Trump. Nobody wants this, they want Trump. 

TBF, a large portion of Trump voters do want this and are enjoying it tremendously, probably because librul tears or some such rot.

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Even this dickbag knows that Trump has taken too much power. 

 

I think that Rand Paul is in the Republican Party, but he is not of the Republican Party

[chasfh]

14 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

We are allowed use **** if we put bag at the end of it.  

Ooh ooh ooh ... let me try:

Rand Paul is a motherdicker.

Yup—works a treat!

[chasfh]

9 minutes ago, romad1 said:

They wouldn't be on the ballot unless they cleared the constitutional hurdle before hand.  Now you tell me that Trump can't lose no matter what..i'm not going to accept that.  

I think you're right on about the clearing of the constitutional hurdle beforehand. I was building on the premise in your post of Trump vs Obama in November 2028.

[gehringer_2]

25 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I think that Rand Paul is in the Republican Party, but he is not of the Republican Party

True. He is more 'of the moon'.

[ewsieg]

14 hours ago, pfife said:

Yea i think amash has way way more integrity

Rumors are even Amash's neighbors like him.

[ewsieg]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

They wouldn't be on the ballot unless they cleared the constitutional hurdle before hand.  Now you tell me that Trump can't lose no matter what..i'm not going to accept that.  

If he's alive, he'll be on the ballot, but as the VP pick.  My guess is Jr. in front as Trump won't trust Vance to resign.  

[The Ronz]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

They wouldn't be on the ballot unless they cleared the constitutional hurdle before hand.  Now you tell me that Trump can't lose no matter what..i'm not going to accept that.  

Trump already did that.

Fourteenth Amendment  Equal Protection and Other Rights

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

[ewsieg]

12 minutes ago, The Ronz said:

Trump already did that.

Legally he has not, or at least been proven guilty of it.  Innocent until proven guilty, let's not act like him.

[CMRivdogs]

This is sounding more and more like my brother in law after his fifth or sixth beer of the day

 

[Tiger337]

19 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

This is sounding more and more like my brother in law after his fifth or sixth beer of the day

 

The vast majority of construction workers are males. Most of the small percentage of female construction workers could probably beat the **** out of Trump.  

[Tiger337]

59 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

Legally he has not, or at least been proven guilty of it.  Innocent until proven guilty, let's not act like him.

True, but they are never going to have a trial, so we'll never get any closure on perhaps the most foundational issue on which this country is based.  Thus, we have to decide for ourselves what happened which means that we are left with a very large proportion (perhaps as much as half) of the country thinking that our president attempted a coup and thus is not a legitimate President.   

[Motown Bombers]

[ben9753]

And they'd vote for him again if they could

[Motown Bombers]

 

[oblong]

You'd think he of all people would know Ovechkin's, of all players, nationality.

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, ewsieg said:

Legally he has not, or at least been proven guilty of it.  Innocent until proven guilty, let's not act like him.

We are in the court of public opinion here, not a court of law. There are different standards here.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, oblong said:

You'd think he of all people would know Ovechkin's, of all players, nationality.

 

I don't think he would have any idea. I think all he would "know" is that hockey = Canada.

Edited 15 hours ago by chasfh

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Human nature.

I'm on a committee currently where a few folks want to change a policy that will have an obvious, inevitable, bad result, and they refuse to see it (they are trying to send a virtue signal instead of actually achieving virtue). It's not a end-of-the-world issue but one where the aims they hope to accomplish will actually be set back. Magic thinking? Lack of thinking?

And of course you are the bad guy who must be the evil side of the issue.

Edited 14 hours ago by gehringer_2