Tiger337 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: What ridiculous positions were those? Thinking that democracy and following the constitutuon are good things perhaps? Edited 17 hours ago by Tiger337 Quote
Tiger337 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I go back to, how is anyone better off when we spend billions on ICE to chase cabbage pickers through the fields? Who benefits from that? It makes scared MAGAs feel safe. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 2 minutes ago, mtutiger said: I am advocating for due process. Shipping people who commit immigration infractions who have no ties whatsoever to South Sudan to South Sudan is pretty much the opposite of that. Aside from that, we have plenty of murderers and child rapists locked up in our own country. Is your position that we are unable to lock up murderers and child rapists who commit infractions in the United States... in the United States? I don't get your argument. The Supreme Court looked at the case involving the 8 deportations to South Sudan so please stop screaming "due process" as if it's some Uno reverse card. Why should the USA continue being responsible for convicted criminals who are in the country illegally? Makes no sense to say that they should be locked up here instead of there. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) Most of these people aren't convicted criminals. In fact, crime amongst immigrants is very low. Edited 17 hours ago by Motown Bombers Quote
mtutiger Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Just now, GalagaGuy said: The Supreme Court looked at the case..... Oh well, that solves it then.... seriously, this ****ing Supreme Court? The one that gave us Trump v. US last year? Case closed, lol Quote
Tiger337 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Just now, Motown Bombers said: Most of these people aren't convicted criminals. In fact, crime amongst immigrants is very low. It's lower than that of native born Americans. That includes undocumented immigrants. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, mtutiger said: Oh well, that solves it then.... seriously, this ****ing Supreme Court? The one that gave us Trump v. US last year? Case closed, lol Well in your world not even the Supreme Court counts as due process so I guess that means no person in the country illegally can be deported, right? You win I guess. Quote
1984Echoes Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I go back to, how is anyone better off when we spend billions on ICE to chase cabbage pickers through the fields? Who benefits from that? 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: It makes scared MAGAs feel safe. And all the High School kids want those jobs picking cabbages. MAGA said so. Or maybe that was Trump that said it was true. So true. Picking cabbages. Who wouldn't want to do that for your country? For your President? Make America Great Again!!!! By picking cabbages. Quote
mtutiger Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Just now, GalagaGuy said: Well in your world not even the Supreme Court counts as due process so I guess that means no person in the country illegally can be deported, right? You win I guess. 1.) Do you think Donald Trump is immune from prosecution? 2.) This Supreme Court, in large part because of that particular ruling, has breached the trust that I had in it. Am I supposed to just suck it up and swallow whatever they say after that? Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, mtutiger said: 1.) Do you think Donald Trump is immune from prosecution? 2.) This Supreme Court, in large part because of that particular ruling, has breached the trust that I had in it. Am I supposed to just suck it up and swallow whatever they say after that? The Supreme Court never ruled that the President was immune from prosecution, they ruled that they are immune for actions taken within their official acts. That same ruling said that they could be prosecuted for unofficial acts. A reminder that you're clutching your pearls over murders and rapists. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago A reminder that only 9% of the people detained by ICE were convicted of a violent crime. Quote
mtutiger Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 4 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: The Supreme Court never ruled that the President was immune from prosecution, they ruled that they are immune for actions taken within their official acts. That same ruling said that they could be prosecuted for unofficial acts. Congratulations, you got me sir. 5 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: A reminder that you're clutching your pearls over murders and rapists. Which murder or rape did Kilmar Abrego Garcia commit, exactly? That's news to me. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Par for this Presidency. He's probably in favor of feeding the loser to the alligators Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, mtutiger said: Congratulations, you got me sir. Which murder or rape did Kilmar Abrego Garcia commit, exactly? That's news to me. So now we're not talking about the 8 violent convicted criminals being sent to South Sudan because their own countries refuse to take them? Them goalposts getting heavy? Quote
Tiger337 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: A reminder that only 9% of the people detained by ICE were convicted of a violent crime. 8 people were though. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: A reminder that only 9% of the people detained by ICE were convicted of a violent crime. A reminder that being convicted of a crime is not a prerequisite for deportation. Quote
pfife Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Remember that time the Supreme Court said the 14th Amendment didnt apply because congress didnt pass a law implementing it? That was awesome Quote
mtutiger Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: So now we're not talking about the 8 violent convicted criminals being sent to South Sudan because their own countries refuse to take them? Them goalposts getting heavy? Setting aside the fact that we could easily imprison murders and rapists in our own country (because we have done it already in literally all 50 states).............. Congratulations, you got me again, well done. Getting back to Kilmar Abrego Garcia, why did he need to be sent to a torture prison run by a dictator in Central America exactly? And does keeping people up past the point of exhaustion, forcing them to kneel between the hours 2100 and 0600, striking them when they fall, and denying them bathroom access / allowing themselves to soil themselves seem out of character for said dictator? You seem evasive on this question.... Edited 17 hours ago by mtutiger Quote
mtutiger Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 5 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: A reminder that being convicted of a crime is not a prerequisite for deportation. Deportation to ****ing South Sudan? Quote
Tiger337 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 7 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: A reminder that being convicted of a crime is not a prerequisite for deportation. Correct. Being brown and speaking poor English are the prerequisites. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 4 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Setting aside the fact that we could easily imprison murders and rapists in our own country (because we have done it already in literally all 50 states).............. Congratulations, you got me again, well done. Getting back to Kilmar Abrego Garcia, why did he need to be sent to a torture prison run by a dictator in Central America exactly? And does keeping people up past the point of exhaustion, forcing them to kneel between the hours 2100 and 0600, striking them when they fall, and denying them bathroom access / allowing themselves to soil themselves seem out of character for said dictator? You seem evasive on this question.... No idea why you care so deeply as to where a convicted child rapist spends their time but you do you I guess. As for Garcia, I've already commented on the things you accuse me of avoiding. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Correct. Being brown and speaking poor English are the prerequisites. You sure about that? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney Quote
Tiger337 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 6 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: You sure about that? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney Good thing for her she was white and pretty or she might never have gotten back home. Quote
mtutiger Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 9 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: No idea why you care so deeply as to where a convicted child rapist spends their time but you do you I guess. I believe in due process and believe that sending people who aren't from South Sudan to South Sudan is a bunch of bull****. Regardless of whatever the Supreme Court, of Trump v. US fame, thinks. 9 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said: As for Garcia, I've already commented on the things you accuse me of avoiding. You did, but that account was from Garcia, who you accused of lying. Do you think Garcia's account of keeping him up past the point of exhaustion, forcing him to kneel between the hours 2100 and 0600, striking them when they fall, and denying him bathroom access / allowing themselves to soil himself was a case of him lying? Quote
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