monkeytargets39 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Since this weekend is “rivalry weekend” Do you consider Toronto our rivals? Personally I don’t think geographic location is the only thing that makes a rival. I consider our two chief rivals to be the Guardians and the Twins. But instead they have the Guardians and Reds playing because they’re both in Ohio—even though they went many decades without really playing each other. Quote
IdahoBert Posted May 16 Author Posted May 16 26 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: Since this weekend is “rivalry weekend” Do you consider Toronto our rivals? Personally I don’t think geographic location is the only thing that makes a rival. I consider our two chief rivals to be the Guardians and the Twins. But instead they have the Guardians and Reds playing because they’re both in Ohio—even though they went many decades without really playing each other. I thought we were signed Pittsburgh as our “rival.” 1 Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 18 minutes ago, IdahoBert said: I thought we were signed Pittsburgh as our “rival.” Not with Don Kelly as their manager Quote
holygoat Posted May 16 Posted May 16 It's an off day, so enjoy this fun video about the 1984 Padres. I didn't know how crazy that team was. Quote
romad1 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 1 hour ago, monkeytargets39 said: Since this weekend is “rivalry weekend” Do you consider Toronto our rivals? Personally I don’t think geographic location is the only thing that makes a rival. I consider our two chief rivals to be the Guardians and the Twins. But instead they have the Guardians and Reds playing because they’re both in Ohio—even though they went many decades without really playing each other. They certainly were. One of the better rivalries. Quote
chasfh Posted May 16 Posted May 16 4 hours ago, IdahoBert said: I was hoping that for the Toronto series I could watch the Toronto TV feed and listen to Dan on the radio, but you can only listen to the specific radio feed for the TV feed you’re watching on MLB.tv. Watching the Blue Jays feed it was so nice not being subjected to all the idiot gambling BS. It’s a cheap solution, but you could pull up the Tigers radio feed on your phone and sync it to the Blue Jays video. It’s not very bespoke but that’s what I’m probably going to do. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 23 minutes ago, romad1 said: They certainly were. One of the better rivalries. Yeah but it cooled off a lot once we left the AL East. I have no real emotions towards the Jays beyond laughing at their GM incompetence. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) 14 minutes ago, chasfh said: It’s a cheap solution, but you could pull up the Tigers radio feed on your phone and sync it to the Blue Jays video. It’s not very bespoke but that’s what I’m probably going to do. It's the IP era and everything is buffered to some random unpredictable degree. Even the over the air radio is not a reliable 7 seconds any more because the audio gets to the transmitter by IP and can/does get buffered on the way there. Often the gameday cartoon is the most *live* thing I get. So for instance, the other night, the over the air radio was about 15 seconds behind gameday and my Direct TV was another 20 or so seconds behind the radio. So at least 35 seconds from fact to video - maybe more as I have no way of knowing how far behind gameday might be. If I try to run gameday audio vs the Direct TV video, the Audio is usually, but not *allways* ahead. The buffering on Direct TV makes no sense at all. I sometimes start watching the recording of a game in progress, excising the commercials to eventually catch up. When I get to 'real time' on the recording I might jump back the the 'direct' program, and it will say 'live' but pick up 30 sec behind where the recording in progress already had been! Makes no sense at all, ever. I don't even have a way of checking the broadcast against live at the ballpark as I don't have portable FM radio anymore! When the games were on 'JR we always had a pocket AM radio on hand to get Ernie's explanations of anything odd that happened on he field. Edited May 16 by gehringer_2 Quote
oblong Posted May 16 Posted May 16 1 hour ago, holygoat said: It's an off day, so enjoy this fun video about the 1984 Padres. I didn't know how crazy that team was. That came across my feed last night. Crazy. I knew about Show. Quote
Tiger337 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 11 minutes ago, oblong said: That came across my feed last night. Crazy. I knew about Show. Since my memory is stuck in 1984, I remembered most of that stuff. I'd buy the book if he wrote it. Show wasn't the only John Bircher on that team. They also had Mark Thurmond and Dave Dravecky. Can you imagine that team in the age of Twitter? It would probably suck, because instead of it being a team of characters, everyone would hate them. Quote
oblong Posted May 16 Posted May 16 I knew Dravecky was very religious but the political thing was new. There was a moving story about Shows last days. A sad reminder about addiction. Quote
Arlington Posted May 16 Posted May 16 Pardon my randomness, Both the Cubs and the Tigers have been in the World Series 11 times and they played each other 4 times. There is a decent possibility it could be 12 and 5 this year. 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) Updated Tigers CBT Calculator: Player CBT Total Jack Flaherty $27,500,000.00 Javier Baez $23,333,333.33 Gleyber Torres $15,000,000.00 Alex Cobb $15,000,000.00 Kenta Maeda $12,000,000.00 Tarik Skubal $10,150,000.00 Tommy Kahnle $7,750,000.00 Colt Keith $4,773,750.00 Jason Foley $3,150,000.00 Matt Vierling $3,005,000.00 John Brebbia $2,750,000.00 Jake Rogers $2,640,000.00 Casey Mize $2,340,000.00 Zach McKinstry $1,650,000.00 Tomas Nido $1,403,225.81 Andy Ibanez $1,400,000.00 Will Vest $1,400,000.00 Akil Baddoo $1,120,000.00 Beau Brieske $1,025,000.00 Jose Urquidy $1,000,000.00 Riley Greene $812,400.00 Tyler Holton $797,700.00 Kerry Carpenter $796,800.00 Reese Olson $787,100.00 Spencer Torkelson $785,700.00 Alex Lange $782,200.00 Parker Meadows $781,600.00 Wenceel Perez $770,700.00 Brant Hurter $767,100.00 Trey Sweeney $764,000.00 Sawyer Gipson-Long $763,600.00 Dillon Dingler $762,600.00 Ty Madden $761,400.00 Jackson Jobe $760,900.00 Brenan Hanifee $759,095.70 Justyn-Henry Malloy $752,977.96 Sean Guenther $663,274.19 Keider Montero $645,875.97 Manuel Margot $286,559.14 Bailey Horn $242,282.15 Brewer Hicklen $234,175.81 Ryan Kreidler $233,096.23 Jace Jung $202,866.67 Matt Manning $197,177.00 Chase Lee $183,645.16 Tyler Owens $119,091.94 Tyler Mattison $62,000.00 Jordan Balazovic $0.00 Dietrich Enns $0.00 Ben Gamel $0.00 Wilmer Flores $0.00 Ricky Vanasco $0.00 Brian Serven $0.00 Jahmai Jones $0.00 Bligh Madris $0.00 Matt Gage $0.00 Ryan Miller $0.00 Brendan White $0.00 Gage Workman $0.00 Alex Faedo -$100,000.00 Eduardo Rodriguez -$933,333.33 Pre-Arb Bonus Pool $1,666,666.67 Player Benefits $18,000,000.00 CBT Payroll $172,499,560.38 CBT Threshold $241,000,000.00 CBT Room $68,500,439.62 Edited May 16 by Edman85 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) Quote Updated Tigers CBT Calculator: Does 'promotion' money have to be adding in as it accrues or do team's get a pass on that - i.e. for each day Montero spends with the Tigers he's getting the major league min instead of the AAA min? Edited May 16 by gehringer_2 Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) 13 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said: Since this weekend is “rivalry weekend” Do you consider Toronto our rivals? Personally I don’t think geographic location is the only thing that makes a rival. I consider our two chief rivals to be the Guardians and the Twins. But instead they have the Guardians and Reds playing because they’re both in Ohio—even though they went many decades without really playing each other. In the 80s the Jays were our rivals. Not so much now, however The last two weeks of 1987. Wow. Just wow. I went to all 3 games the final weekend. Do you realize that in those last two weekends they played 7 games. The Jays won the first three and the Tigers won the last four and they were all 1-run games....all 7. Had Bleacher Seats for all 3 of those last games and couldn't even see Herndon's HR in the clincher, just went by the crowd reaction. Edited May 16 by Motor City Sonics Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted May 16 Posted May 16 You know a major indication of aging? How far you have to scroll down on Baseball Reference to look up box scores of games you were actually at years ago. Quote
Tiger337 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 10 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: You know a major indication of aging? How far you have to scroll down on Baseball Reference to look up box scores of games you were actually at years ago. ctrl/f box Quote
Shelton Posted May 16 Posted May 16 I’m not sure the extent that creating the “rivalry weekend” for marketing purposes increases attendance/viewership relative to the same series against the same team on a non-promoted weekend. That said, anecdotally speaking, weekend games against the Jays seem to have a lot of folks in blue hats walking around the stadium. So it seems appropriate to me. Division/competitive rivals are a different story and don’t really fit with the theme of the weekend. Quote
chasfh Posted May 16 Posted May 16 Tigers and Guardindians were never really rivals because they never fought each other closely for a pennant, or if they did, it was 100 years ago and not recently. Now that they had the playoff series last night, that should goose the rivalry by a good deal starting next week. And I'm gonna be there for Friday's game! Quote
Tiger337 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) It's all about the Pirates. The Tigers can lose every series for the rest of the long. As long as they beat Pittsburgh, that's all that matters. We are going to kick some Pirate ass next month. I hate those bastards. Never forget 1909! Edited May 16 by Tiger337 Quote
oblong Posted May 16 Posted May 16 The Jays are as good as any for a rival. You have the history of 1987 plus those years in the early 90s when their fans would invade Tiger Stadium and take over. Hotels in Dearborn were full of Jays fans when they were here on the weekends, I know because I was delivering pizzas to them. Pissed me off. Otherwise you have to just let the thing grow organically. You can't force it. Quote
Edman85 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: Does 'promotion' money have to be adding in as it accrues or do team's get a pass on that - i.e. for each day Montero spends with the Tigers he's getting the major league min instead of the AAA min? Yes, Montero (for example) is on a split salary, and I assume (erroneously, but I have to draw the line somewhere) that the roster stays as is the rest of the year. I also don't have an exact amount for the medical benefits piece, or the cash deals (Faedo, Horn, Hicklen all were involved in undisclosed cash deals). To better answer your question though, Montero gets major league prorated split money ($736,700) days he is in the majors, minor league split ($201,770) in the minors. Edited May 16 by Edman85 Quote
RatkoVarda Posted May 16 Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: Brewer Hicklen $234,175.81 Ryan Kreidler $233,096.23 how does Hicklen (a few days) out earn Kreidler (a few weeks)? is Nido's salary that high because he is a 5 year vet, or did he get some ML roster bonus? Quote
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