2025 Detroit Tigers General Discussion Thread

[tiger2022]

I wonder if the Tigers will try to trade for a pitcher or two.

WIthout looking up their contract status, someone like Jeffrey Springs or Zach Eflin.  

No point in getting to the postseason and having the starters get destroyed in a short series.

[4hzglory]

1 hour ago, tiger2022 said:

I wonder if the Tigers will try to trade for a pitcher or two.

WIthout looking up their contract status, someone like Jeffrey Springs or Zach Eflin.  

No point in getting to the postseason and having the starters get destroyed in a short series.

I think for the postseason especially, bullpen arms are more important.

You need 4 starters max in the playoffs.  If healthy, Skubal, Flaherty (I’m assuming he figures things out) Mize, and Olsen are capable enough, and at there best match up well against most.  If one starter has a short outing, if you have enough solid bullpen arms you’re ok as the days off means guys can go almost every day.

[gehringer_2]

Lange with his second appearance for WM. Pitched the 1st inning: 2H 1ER 2K  15/20 strikes.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, tiger2022 said:

I wonder if the Tigers will try to trade for a pitcher or two.

WIthout looking up their contract status, someone like Jeffrey Springs or Zach Eflin.  

No point in getting to the postseason and having the starters get destroyed in a short series.

I saw some people on Twitter saying the Tigers should trade a top prospect package to Atlanta for Chris Sale. Thankfully, he just went to the IL with a fractured rib cage. I want no part of him on this team, we could find someone less expensive. Both in salary and the players needed to trade for. And I really don't like Sale...😃

[tiger2022]

8 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I saw some people on Twitter saying the Tigers should trade a top prospect package to Atlanta for Chris Sale. Thankfully, he just went to the IL with a fractured rib cage. I want no part of him on this team, we could find someone less expensive. Both in salary and the players needed to trade for. And I really don't like Sale...😃

Verlander was/is a giant d-bag too, but no one cared when he was winning Cy Youngs.

[Sports_Freak]

2 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Verlander was/is a giant d-bag too, but no one cared when he was winning Cy Youngs.

Sale is making 22m this season. And he's in his late 30's. So it would be a rental, kind of an expensive one. I really don't wanna see any top prospects traded to Atlanta. Find some AA pitcher nobody has ever heard of...<cough cough>

[ICroupier]

We need a legit #2. I don't trust Flaherty or Mize come playoff time. They might be OK against a team's #3 or #4, but I'd feel way better about our postseason chances if we paired Skubal with another arm we all felt comfortable sending out there.

Also need 2 more bullpen arms - either 2 setup guys or a setup and backend. Kahnle and Vest can only carry us so far.

[gehringer_2]

I wouldn't want 1 and 2 to both be LH.

[IdahoBert]

Listening to yesterday‘s game in the car Dan Dickerson related briefly the story about Willie Horton making his way his way to the Pirates clubhouse to congratulate Don Kelly. The Tigers great paying his respects to a beloved role player. Both men of the cloth.

As much as these baseball clubs follow the fault lines of soulless corporate entities like any other, the Tigers still maintain this affecting human dimension among the men who are part of the lineage of the team.

I suppose all teams do this, but the Tigers are the only team I follow closely and when I sense this knit of identity between former players or hear about, it brings me joy. As remote as I am from all of it, I somehow feel included.

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, 4hzglory said:

I think for the postseason especially, bullpen arms are more important.

You need 4 starters max in the playoffs.  If healthy, Skubal, Flaherty (I’m assuming he figures things out) Mize, and Olsen are capable enough, and at there best match up well against most.  If one starter has a short outing, if you have enough solid bullpen arms you’re ok as the days off means guys can go almost every day.

If healthy...I would not count on it.  I'd like to see them get one more starter.  If everyone stays healthy, that gives them another bullpen arm for the playoffs.  I also want them to had a traditional reliever or two.      

[tiger2022]

The Tigers need to do something before the trade deadline.  They have two years of Skubal left.  They can't waste those years by worrying about trading a bunch of minor leaguers that will probably never be anything other than Trey Sweeney type of mlbers.

I would like the front office to try to add a quality outfield bat.  The Orioles have some veterans they might want to dump.  This might be a year where a lot of teams hold onto their guys.

 

[4hzglory]

10 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

If healthy...I would not count on it.  I'd like to see them get one more starter.  If everyone stays healthy, that gives them another bullpen arm for the playoffs.  I also want them to had a traditional reliever or two.      

If I’m going for a starter, I want a high end guy-someone who would be for sure better than Montero and SGL.  Sale would have fit that for me.  I’d have included one of our top tier guys to get him through next year.  He is a difference maker-as much as dislike him from our history.  Efflin types do nothing for me.  
 

sale was the ones players voted as who they’d least like to face in the 9th of game 7.

[Edman85]

On 6/21/2025 at 9:15 AM, chasfh said:

@Edman85: is there an appreciable difference in rostering/salary for either team if one team waives a guy who is claimed by another team, versus one team waives a guy, the guy clears and gets released, and another team signs the guy? One thing I can think of is in the first scenario, the guy has to go onto another team’s big league roster. Anything else?

Yes. You take on the salary if you claim them off release waivers. If Brebbia signs with somebody this week, they can get him for the prorated minimum.

Edited Sunday at 01:40 PM by Edman85

[Tenacious D]

12 hours ago, 4hzglory said:

If I’m going for a starter, I want a high end guy-someone who would be for sure better than Montero and SGL.  Sale would have fit that for me.  I’d have included one of our top tier guys to get him through next year.  He is a difference maker-as much as dislike him from our history.  Efflin types do nothing for me.  
 

sale was the ones players voted as who they’d least like to face in the 9th of game 7.

Wouldn’t be the first time a GM reversed face, but the Braves GM adamantly stated that there was no way they were trading Sale this season. Watch him end up on the Astros.

[Sports_Freak]

The Tigers are 49-30. And 8 of those 30 losses came on the last 8 Saturday's. That seems like a high % of losses on the same day. About 27% of our losses on Saturdays.

[IdahoBert]

For all the recent missteps and setbacks of which we are all well aware, the Tigers still have the best record in all of baseball by one game better than the Dodgers. Other teams as well are not firing on all cylinders.

This is no reason to bump up the bass and go cruising, but we’re not the only team that’s imperfect and the Tigers have good leadership on the field and in the front office. 

[Tenacious D]

54 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

The Tigers are 49-30. And 8 of those 30 losses came on the last 8 Saturday's. That seems like a high % of losses on the same day. About 27% of our losses on Saturdays.

Simple—stop playing on Saturdays

[1984Echoes]

11 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

For all the recent missteps and setbacks of which we are all well aware, the Tigers still have the best record in all of baseball by one game better than the Dodgers. Other teams as well are not firing on all cylinders.

This is no reason to bump up the bass and go cruising, but we’re not the only team that’s imperfect and the Tigers have good leadership on the field and in the front office. 

I applaud loudly Harris, Hinch, Fetter and team. And by team I mean everyone in the front office, coaching, as well as the players. This is fantastic.

Now, while I do not want to push any panic button, because that is completely unnecessary...

I also do not want to take the foot off of the accelerator.

I want Harris to keep stepping on the gas.

So if he sees the right move, that he and Hinch think will help the team, at the right price...

Then do it.

Add on the extra car accessory... If it helps us go faster.

I'm not going to argue against any move Harris makes to help this team.

But, again, I agree there's no reason to panic over a tiny amount of scuffling the past two weeks. We still have the best record in MLB.

I'm just keeping my eyes on all the bumps in the road...

No wrong detours please.

[Tenacious D]

Fix the damn holes

 

[Tenacious D]

Latest AL All Star game voting results:

 

[HugoD]

21 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Latest AL All Star game voting results:

 

This seems pretty reasonable at first blush;  not sure who I'm not thinking of.  Certainly seems fair wrt Tigers

[Tiger337]

I don't care about the allstar game much anymore, but Torres and Greene both deserve to start.  Baez is comeback player of the year but not an allstar starter.  Buxton is probably #1 in CF.   

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't care about the allstar game much anymore, but Torres and Greene both deserve to start.  Baez is comeback player of the year but not an allstar starter.  Buxton is probably #1 in CF.   

The All Star game is simply a popularity contest in some cases. Is Greene the 2nd best outfielder in the AL? And Javy the 3rd best? Yeah, I don't think so.

[casimir]

2 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Latest AL All Star game voting results:

 

Is Baez starting in CF for the 2025 All Star Game proof that we have tangented off from reality to an alternate universe?

[4hzglory]

44 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

The All Star game is simply a popularity contest in some cases. Is Greene the 2nd best outfielder in the AL? And Javy the 3rd best? Yeah, I don't think so.

If you look at the stats, surprisingly, they aren't far off from top 3.  Offensive numbers have really dropped this year.  Buxton should probably be ahead of Baez, but has only played 60 games.  Greene is 3rd among AL OF in OPS behind Judge and Buxton.  Baez is 5th in OPS (Grishom is 4th).