Tiger Cubs (notes on the minors)

[Tiger337]

34 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Flaherty averaged 0.67 runs in in the games Tigers won

Olson 1.17

I wouldn't have guessed it was quite that low across the board though, so it was an interesting observation on your part.  

The Tigers scored 4.5 runs in all of Skubal's starts and 6.0 in Mize's starts.  Skubal never gave up more than 4 runs in any of the losses, so he likely would have won more games with more run support.  

ER allowed per game in Mize's losses 3.2. 2.0 in Skubal's losses.  

 

Olson got 4.5 runs of support per game.  He also allowed just 2.4 ER per game in his losses.  So, he seems to have been unlucky compared to Mize.  

[Sports_Freak]

10 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Flaherty averaged 0.67 runs in in the games Tigers won

Olson 1.17

I wouldn't have guessed it was quite that low across the board though, so it was an interesting observation on your part.  

The Tigers scored 4.5 runs in all of Skubal's starts and 6.0 in Mize's starts.  Skubal never gave up more than 4 runs in any of the losses, so he likely would have won more games with more run support.  

ER allowed per game in Mize's losses 3.2. 2.0 in Skubal's losses.  

 

Very good post. What would be interesting would be to see how many runs the bullpen gave up when they took over for these guys. Starting pitchers that only go 5 or 6 innings really put stress on a bullpen. Especially if it's a few starters in a row. Thats something else people overlook about Skubal, he allows the bullpen to rest in many of his starts. He would be extremely hard to replace.

[Tiger337]

4 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Very good post. What would be interesting would be to see how many runs the bullpen gave up when they took over for these guys. Starting pitchers that only go 5 or 6 innings really put stress on a bullpen. Especially if it's a few starters in a row. Thats something else people overlook about Skubal, he allows the bullpen to rest in many of his starts. He would be extremely hard to replace.

There is no doubt that innings pitched for starters has become an important stat.  

[Sports_Freak]

8 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

There is no doubt that innings pitched for starters has become an important stat.  

Its almost like a team can get by with having average or just below average starting pitchers if they have a bullpen that is totally shutdown. It just seems like so many games are decided by bullpens. But a team still needs at least one, maybe two, starters who can go deeper into games. And I still say the inherited runner scored is an often overlooked stat for relief pitchers. Forget won and lost records, show me the inherited runs allowed stat.

[Sports_Freak]

21 hours ago, Stormin said:

The media likes to point point out that the Tigers were 21-10 in games that Skubal pitched and a .500 team without Skubal. The Tigers were 18-10 in games that Mize pitched.

If the Tigers aren't going to retain Skubal, it may benefit them to lock up Mize. Losing 3 of our top starting pitchers in '27 could easily lead to a 100 loss season.

[buddha]

15 hours ago, Tigermojo said:

Mize is a good #4 starter. In the playoffs you ideally want your 1, 2 maybe 3 starters getting most innings. Olson got hurt and Flaherty was struggling forcing Mize into a role he shouldn't have been in. 

the #1 overall pick in the draft turns out to be an ok #4 depth starter.  Not ideal.

that could easily be jackson jobe soon too.  pitchers are fragile.