2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[Cruzer1]

7 hours ago, papalawrence said:

I don't see Harris as the overpaying type. They clearly need bullpen and SP help. Will be an interesting 2-3 weeks

They don't need SP at all. In the playoffs, teams usually shorten to a four man rotation. The Tigers can cover two spots in the bullpen internally. They need one or two top notch relievers. I don't think they need to add to the lineup, since they don't have anyone to take away from.

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, papalawrence said:

I don't see Harris as the overpaying type. They clearly need bullpen and SP help. Will be an interesting 2-3 weeks

Almost no matter what Scott Harris does, someone is going to be mad over it.

[1984Echoes]

2 hours ago, Cruzer1 said:

They don't need SP at all. In the playoffs, teams usually shorten to a four-man rotation...

Which means...

The only SP help we should be looking for, if any, would have to be better than Mize-Montero-Olson-Flaherty... because we already have those guys and the rotation gets shortened in the playoffs anyways, as you've noted.

We don't "NEED" SP help...

But if the rare opportunity to add a true #2 starter were available, and at a cost that Harris approved... I would not be averse to adding that person. Because the above 4 are pitching like 3/4/5 starters (inconsistent, not reliably dominant, IMO).

I don't know that anyone fitting that description is available anyways, so moot point.

I'm just sayin'...

Edited 23 hours ago by 1984Echoes

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Almost no matter what Scott Harris does, someone is going to be mad over it.

Just like every GM in sports.  

[RatkoVarda]

if healthy, this rotation is 6 deep and fine through the rest of the year:

Skubal, Flaherty, Mize, Olson, Montero, SGL - they also have Melton who may join BP

the relievers are not so good:

Vest, Kahnle, Holton are only guys you would want in to see in a close playoff game.

Hanifee and Lee might make playoff roster by default.

need two guys who strike people out

 

[CaliforniaDreaming]

If the rotation is shortened to 3 or 4 in the playoffs, then Montero and SGL could be moved to the bullpen displacing folks like Hanifee and Lee. Does that give make us feel at all better about the bullpen? Does that affect who/how many relievers we try to add at the deadline?

[RatkoVarda]

need swing and miss; don't see that as Montero or SGL's strengths

[CaliforniaDreaming]

10 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

need swing and miss; don't see that as Montero or SGL's strengths

I agree. But with them added, are we satisfied with one swing and miss addition only?

[Edman85]

Hard disagree on SGL not being a swing and miss guy. The k's weren't there this year in his time back, but down the stretch in 2023, his K rate and Stuff Metrics were bonkers off the chart.

[Tenacious D]

Getting a better starter allows us to move a current one to the pen.  I think Flaherty would hate it, but he’d be very good in 1-2 innings

[Tiger337]

I would like to see them get Lugo.  I would have more faith in him as a #2 starter in the playoffs than anyone else they have.  The need for a top reliever or two goes without saying.  

[RatkoVarda]

17 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Hard disagree on SGL not being a swing and miss guy. The k's weren't there this year in his time back, but down the stretch in 2023, his K rate and Stuff Metrics were bonkers off the chart.

happy to be proven wrong; but seems to be that was an aberration, not the baseline

[HugoD]

The only current SP I'd trust with a high leverage role would be Skubal.   Call me crazy, but I'm thinking that wouldn't be a good move.

[1984Echoes]

51 minutes ago, HugoD said:

The only current SP I'd trust with a high leverage role would be Skubal.   Call me crazy, but I'm thinking that wouldn't be a good move.

This is my POV.

I want higher leverage pitchers for higher leverage playoff and WS innings. If we can get that far.

I have no idea how cheaply we can get them or even if we can... They're not going to be cheap, but at a price that Harris feels he can work with...

[Shades of Deivi Cruz]

4 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

Vest, Kahnle, Holton are only guys you would want in to see in a close playoff game.

 

You are a brave man for keeping Kahnle on this list, while at the same time extolling the virtue of swing and miss ability.

[Cruzer1]

Wrong thread.

Edited 13 hours ago by Cruzer1
wrong thread

[casimir]

On 7/13/2025 at 12:56 PM, ICroupier said:

With a season that exceeded expectations but was still a disappointment. How's that for nuance?

I like nuance.

[casimir]

Is there any concern about Kahnle’s workload?  38 IP ain’t a whole lot.  But he hasn’t been in the 60s since 2019.