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There’s times where I feel like I’m a street urchin in a Dickens novel, shivering in the cold and peering through the windows of the rich people’s homes, watching them dine and celebrate a Christmas dinner of roast pheasant and razzberry dressing. 

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1 minute ago, IdahoBert said:

There’s times where I feel like I’m a street urchin in a Dickens novel, shivering in the cold and peering through the windows of the rich people’s homes, watching them dine and celebrate a Christmas dinner of roast pheasant and razzberry dressing. 

You will feel better after all the rich people watch the Tigers win the World Series.

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7 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

There’s times where I feel like I’m a street urchin in a Dickens novel, shivering in the cold and peering through the windows of the rich people’s homes, watching them dine and celebrate a Christmas dinner of roast pheasant and razzberry dressing. 

Speaking of razzberries, looks like a whole bunch of guys here will be ready to give Scott Harris a whole bowlful of them after six o’clock rolls around.

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2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Speaking of razzberries, looks like a whole bunch of guys here will be ready to give Scott Harris a whole bowlful of them after six o’clock rolls around.

not impressed by a bunch of scratcher lottery tickets

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It’s too bad there isn’t a game today because if there were a game at 6 PM Eastern when the trade deadline has passed, Tigers Live on FanDuel would be on the air and it’d be entertaining to witness the coverage of the - thus far - underwhelming though probably predictable results. 

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47 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

Always up for a discussion on Lesbos

"Dear Penthouse...I always thought the stories in your magazine were made up until..."

Darn.  Used up all my likes today.  

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The Tigers are the only team in MLB where their entire division has thrown in the towel. Everyone else sold and essentially conceded the playoff spot.    

They didn’t need to be as aggressive as others today since they aren’t fighting to secure a playoff spot.   Everyone else has to put pedal to metal just to ensure they get in.    

Playoffs are a crapshoot either way.  You can’t just build the best team and expect to win the World Series.    They could’ve added Suarez, Miller, and Bednar today and it still wouldn’t improve their chances of winning it all.  Definitely would’ve helped get them in the playoffs but that’s not an issue.  

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I’m a little surprised people here are more sanguine about Kyle Finnegan than I thought they might be, or than I am for that matter. His card is decidedly meh for a reliever, and downright underwater for a closer on a contender.

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He’s 33, so no wonder his fastball is down a tick from the last couple years, but even if you accept an understanding of that, the fact is it’s still down that tick. His K rate is well below average and down from previous years. His walk rate is slightly above league average. His HR rate is way down, but that’s because his HR/FB rate, considered to be mostly luck-based, is half his career average, which explains way his xFIP- is sharply up even as his FIP- dropped.

Flip side, Fangraphs pitchingbot has his stuff and command as both slightly above average for both his main pitches, and his fWAR is 0.6 even though his RA9-WAR is a flat zero, mainly due to the bad luck of not stranding enough runners. And he is pretty tough on lefties for a starboard pitcher.

I get that people are looking at this acquisition in terms of the cost of prospect capital, but that’s really not the true cost of picking him and anointing him closer, is it? Isn’t the true cost the absence of better pitchers we will not have acquired that would be a better fit for that spot? I’m not one of the guys here who wanted to liquidate the top of our system in exchange for the top fire-breather on the market, but I did think getting a no-doubt closer was going to be on the shopping list. Maybe the prices being quoted Scott were just too high for him to consider. 

As far as I can tell, Vest and Holton are still the two go-to guys at the back of the pen, with Finnegan probably now third on the chart. 

 

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1 minute ago, Hongbit said:

The Tigers are the only team in MLB where their entire division has thrown in the towel. Everyone else sold and essentially conceded the playoff spot.    

They didn’t need to be as aggressive as others today since they aren’t fighting to secure a playoff spot.   Everyone else has to put pedal to metal just to ensure they get in.    

Playoffs are a crapshoot either way.  You can’t just build the best team and expect to win the World Series.    They could’ve added Suarez, Miller, and Bednar today and it still wouldn’t improve their chances of winning it all.  Definitely would’ve helped get them in the playoffs but that’s not an issue.  

yeah but you also want to try to put the best team out there to get the best shot I think Cashman knows how this goes in the playoffs and he seemed to have gone all in more then harris

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3 hours ago, chasfh said:

Probably DFA’ed Manning because the Twins, Braves, and Guardians wouldn’t take him even as a throw in.

I also have wondered for some time whether Manning is simply a drag to coach and/or to just be around. 

I wonder. It seems like he's been on a long slow slide downwards ever since the 2nd foot injury. Could be there is just enough residual deficit that he's just not the same.

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2 minutes ago, Toddwert said:

so we should trust Harris because in spite of him they made the playoffs?

Nope, you can be president of the I Hate Poopyhead Scott Harris Club for life if you want.

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21 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I’m a little surprised people here are more sanguine about Kyle Finnegan than I thought they might be, or than I am for that matter. His card is decidedly meh for a reliever, and downright underwater for a closer on a contender.

Do you think they obtained him to be their closer?

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i dont hate Harris he  hasnt done anything to give him all the love he gets ... im waiting to see him make a significant move to put them over the top a couple of pitchers with question marks doesnt get me excited sorry

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