NFL General Comments 2025 Season

[GalagaGuy]

40 yard dash times

Mahomes - 4.80

Stafford - 4.81  

Goff - 4.82

Ain't no damn reason for Goff to be as much of a statue as he is.  

[gehringer_2]

45 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

40 yard dash times

Mahomes - 4.80

Stafford - 4.81  

Goff - 4.82

Ain't no damn reason for Goff to be as much of a statue as he is.  

But Goffs problem isn't straight line speed, it's manueverability. 🦛

[sagnam]

7 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Eagles about to lose. Do Lion fans have to worry about Dallas?

So I left the house to them in control. Didn’t even check the score. This news makes me happy.

[romad1]

I think MCDC might need to give the playcalling duties back to John Morton or do something with game management where he clones himself to supervise that.  

 

[GalagaGuy]

10 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

But Goffs problem isn't straight line speed, it's manueverability. 🦛

It's not even about being able to avoid people, it's his inability to do any moving at all.  Watching the Rams last night, Stafford had designed roll outs a bunch of times and there were others that he just moved to get away from oncoming pressure.   I'm not expecting Goff to have the ability to dodge and weave and make impossible throws like Mahomes, but is it really too much to ask that he be able to roll out? 

[Tigeraholic1]

All heart

 

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

It's not even about being able to avoid people, it's his inability to do any moving at all.  Watching the Rams last night, Stafford had designed roll outs a bunch of times and there were others that he just moved to get away from oncoming pressure.   I'm not expecting Goff to have the ability to dodge and weave and make impossible throws like Mahomes, but is it really too much to ask that he be able to roll out? 

yeah - planned roll outs should not be that hard. Either they aren't in the play book, Goff just doesn't like to do it, or the thought is that with the turnover on the 0-line and TE it's an added level of complexity they think might lead to more breakdowns.

[Motown Bombers]

There was at least one roll out I recall where he hit Brock Wright on the sideline. 

[Jason_R]

24 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

There was at least one roll out I recall where he hit Brock Wright on the sideline. 

Yes, that’s right. I was struck watching the Rams last night how big of a part that was of their offense. I didn’t watch even half of the game but saw four or five designed rollouts. I think one was unsuccessful but the others went for pretty good gains. Since the OL is not giving Goff the time he had in the pocket last season, it struck me this could be a way to take some pressure off, and maybe to get some players other than Gibbs and ASB involved in the offense. 

[Motown Bombers]

12 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

Yes, that’s right. I was struck watching the Rams last night how big of a part that was of their offense. I didn’t watch even half of the game but saw four or five designed rollouts. I think one was unsuccessful but the others went for pretty good gains. Since the OL is not giving Goff the time he had in the pocket last season, it struck me this could be a way to take some pressure off, and maybe to get some players other than Gibbs and ASB involved in the offense. 

I seem to recall the Rams did a lot of designed rollouts with Goff. That seems to be a part of the McVay offense. 

[Jason_R]

Who am I rooting for in the SF-Carolina game? 

[MichiganCardinal]

12 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

Who am I rooting for in the SF-Carolina game? 

Giant meteor.

[sagnam]

12 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

Who am I rooting for in the SF-Carolina game? 

Carolina because the 49er ruined our Cinderella story.

[Motor City Sonics]

The J.J. McCarthy thing

So, he's already a complete bust? 

Well, a few thoughts....

He was never that great a QB in college and Minnesota over reached -- by a lot.    McCarthy managed a very good offense at Michigan, with a great line and a lot of weapons, but I don't think of him as a slam-dunk star QB.   Elvis Grbac and Chad Henner were better than McCartly.   

It's his rookie season. You don't take a 14-3 team and put it in the hands of a rookie QB.    

The Vikings are being foolish here. 

C.J. Stroud and Jayden Daniels are unicorns.  It's foolish to start a rookie if you're not a rebuilding team.     There is so much to learn in the NFL.  Teams need to let guys develop.   

And it's also foolish to have Carson Wentz as your only other option.    They would have been better off reacquiring Cousins.  

Now, I don't mind seeing this with a division rival, but I feel like they put him in this position by drafting him way too high. 

 

Hendon Hooker is still out there.    So is Tim Boyle, right?  

[Jason_R]

13 minutes ago, sagnam said:

Carolina because the 49er ruined our Cinderella story.

Yeah, it's really easy to hate them after that. And it's hard to imagine fewer than two teams getting in the playoffs from NFC West, I certainly don't want to see a third. 

[Motor City Sonics]

On 10/22/2025 at 8:43 AM, Motor City Sonics said:

I see that Brandon Graham is coming out of retirement to play for the Eagles. 

 

I kind of wonder if Frank Ragnow might do that - late in the season.   Not have to deal with a full season but contribute for the playoffs.  They seem to be fine without him, but I would imagine it would not take him long to fit in.  

(the above post was from October 22)

 

I had a feeling.     I'm not right very often, but I am glad I am about this.   This could be a big bounce.  I doubt he's dropped of very much and if he did, he'll get it back by his 3rd game. 

Edited 21 hours ago by Motor City Sonics

[gehringer_2]

On 11/24/2025 at 8:39 PM, Motor City Sonics said:

The J.J. McCarthy thing

So, he's already a complete bust? 

Well, a few thoughts....

He was never that great a QB in college and Minnesota over reached -- by a lot.    McCarthy managed a very good offense at Michigan, with a great line and a lot of weapons, but I don't think of him as a slam-dunk star QB.   Elvis Grbac and Chad Henner were better than McCartly.   

It's his rookie season. You don't take a 14-3 team and put it in the hands of a rookie QB.    

The Vikings are being foolish here. 

C.J. Stroud and Jayden Daniels are unicorns.  It's foolish to start a rookie if you're not a rebuilding team.     There is so much to learn in the NFL.  Teams need to let guys develop.   

And it's also foolish to have Carson Wentz as your only other option.    They would have been better off reacquiring Cousins.  

Now, I don't mind seeing this with a division rival, but I feel like they put him in this position by drafting him way too high. 

 

Hendon Hooker is still out there.    So is Tim Boyle, right?  

J.J. has some talent, but you are correct, he didn't have to do much at M, was seldom called upon do win a game through the air, just plain never threw that many passes under game pressure. He was the perfect guy to hold a clipboard and get mop up downs and practice time because maybe there was something there to work with given more reps.

[Motor City Sonics]

6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

J.J. has some talent, but you are correct, he didn't have to do much at M, was seldom called upon do win a game through the air, just plain never threw that many passes under game pressure. He was the perfect guy to hold a clipboard and get mop up downs and practice time because maybe there was something there to work with given more reps.

Bryce Young is a good example.   They threw him to the wolves and he wasn't ready and it showed, but there was no pressure to win immediately, so they could let him take his lumps and learn and now he's alright.      I don't think you can just take a rookie and put him on a good team and expect good things right away.    McCarthy could end up being decent in a couple years, but Minnesota can't wait for that.